Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Hi Phil, thanks for responding again.

When you said " ... I hadn't picked up on your spelling B^)" I had
suspected that you had meant "I hadn't picked up on your spelling Boater
Dave".
Now that really /was/ just a simple misinterpretation on my part -
understandable, I trust! :)
I''ve never seen anyone use a 'smiley' face like yours - quite original <g>
Did you know that it takes over a hundred muscles to frown, yet only 4 to
smile!

If you haven't yet taken a peek at the link I posted earlier, please do so
before you make judgements on the other posts appearing here. Thanks.

David

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"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BbKqi.12778$Od7.6213@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
'BoaterDave' wrote:
| It's been refreshing to 'talk' to you here, Phil. Out of general
interest
| only are you from/in Mableton, GA?
|
| A quote from you : " ... I hadn't picked up on your spelling B^)" -
why
| B^? I suspect you meant BD
|
| It's just tiny things like this which can catch my eye nowadays. You
might
| possibly be interested to read this thread I started elsewhere.
| http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28210
|
| You also said " the less I know about a subject, the more skeptical I am
of
| advice (no matter what the medium)" - I agree 100% with you! <g>
_____

No, not Mableton, GA USA, but Mableton is in the same metropolitan area of
~
6,000,000. You can't always trust the accuracy of an 'IP Address
Locator'.
Such a tool may be close in one case, and quite a miss in another. At
least
one locates your post header IP address in Edison, NJ.

B^) is my smiley-face. The spelling reference is to your UK usage. What
would BD stand in for?

Phil Weldon

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uI6%23qdO0HHA.4928@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| It's been refreshing to 'talk' to you here, Phil. Out of general
interest
| only are you from/in Mableton, GA?
|
| A quote from you : " ... I hadn't picked up on your spelling B^)" -
why
| B^? I suspect you meant BD
|
| It's just tiny things like this which can catch my eye nowadays. You
might
| possibly be interested to read this thread I started elsewhere.
| http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28210
|
| You also said " the less I know about a subject, the more skeptical I am
of
| advice (no matter what the medium)" - I agree 100% with you! <g>
|
| David
|
|
| "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:NGvqi.11547$rR.11154@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
| > | That since having had my identity stolen some two years ago (on-line
| > | Paypay/ebay) I have switched ISP, installed a router and connect
| > wirelessly.
| > | I use a Security Suite and the other software I mentioned and am now
| > also
| > | reasonably adept with HiJackThis. I never stray to 'bad' sites
either
| > when
| > | on the web.
| > _____
| >
| > 'Trust' on line, hmm. For newsgroups, technical newsgroups that have
a
| > connection to computer security and vulnerability, well, I judge on
| >
| > does a mature individual seem to be behind the posts?
| >
| > is advice given in post agree with facts I know to be true?
| >
| > history in newsgroups (a Usenet newsgroup archive will contain
almost
| > every Usenet newsgroup message posted in the last 25 years, searchable
by
| > author)
| >
| > 'peer group' effect - bad advice is usually pointed out very
quickly
| >
| > the less I know about a subject, the more skeptical I am of advice
(no
| > matter what the medium)
| >
| > does the poster take responsibility for postings?
| >
| > You seem to properly take Internet security seriously. As for 'Papal,
I
| > get
| > enough 'pishing' Papal emails that I just ignore them all; same goes
for
| > any
| > email that purports to be from my bank. If any institution REALLY
needs
| > important information from me they will just have to use a different
| > medium.
| >
| > I've never suffered from 'identity theft', though my brother had his
| > credit
| > card information during hotel registration; that information was used
to
| > open an ISP account, and then to open an Internet gambling account.
The
| > credit card issuer had software that tracked usage patterns, flagged
the
| > Internet gambling account and immediately contacted him. That
proactive
| > security is becoming more common and more sophisticated; for example,
it
| > is
| > impossible here to purchase gasoline more that three times in a few
hours
| > using the same credit card.
| >
| > Finally, sorry for the all the USA specific remarks - I hadn't picked
up
| > on
| > your spelling B^)
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:%23Vg5NDK0HHA.1188@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | Phil - I take in what you say, but would add ...............
| > |
| > | That since having had my identity stolen some two years ago (on-line
| > | Paypay/ebay) I have switched ISP, installed a router and connect
| > wirelessly.
| > | I use a Security Suite and the other software I mentioned and am now
| > also
| > | reasonably adept with HiJackThis. I never stray to 'bad' sites
either
| > when
| > | on the web.
| > |
| > | About an hour ago, my doorbell rang. Outside was a policeman. He was
| > invited
| > | indoors.
| > | He questioned my wife and me about our next door neighbour - a young
man
| > | aged about 30 or so. He had evidently been taken into hospital (for
| > reasons
| > | not disclosed to us) and had later dischared himself - he had
| > subsequently
| > | disappeared without trace.
| > |
| > | All we really knew about him was that his name was Dan, that he'd
fairly
| > | recently dropped out of horticultural college and didn't see
eye-to-eye
| > with
| > | his parents who live somewhere in Wales. He was a rather disturbed
young
| > guy
| > | who kept himself very much to himself and didn't really want to
| > communicate.
| > | He's lived alongside us for the best part of 12 months and that's
really
| > all
| > | we knew about him. We felt rather embarrased.
| > |
| > | How much do you know about your neighbour(s) ............. and those
you
| > | 'trust' on-line?
| > |
| > | FWIW
| > |
| > | David
| > |
| > |
| >
*************************************************************************************
| > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:xduqi.12613$zA4.4994@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote:
| > | > | I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied
(at
| > extra
| > | > | cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
| > | > | + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all
up
| > to
| > | > date
| > | > | on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
| > | > |
| > | > | I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who
seem
| > | > adamant
| > | > | that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for
| > posting
| > | > | purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what
other
| > | > 'spy'
| > | > | might be being used to identify me.
| > | > _____
| > | >
| > | > And I gave you methods!
| > | > I guess another method would be
| > | > get the IP address from a recently posted newsgroup message
| > | > launch an attack on that IP address through the Internet
| > | > exploit a vulnerability to take control of your system
| > | > rifle through your files
| > | > export information over the Internet to the hacker.
| > | >
| > | > But simple precautions can block this chain at several points.
| > | > router with NAT
| > | > hardware firewall
| > | > software firewall
| > | > antivirus and antimalware programs installed, up-to-date, and
| > always
| > | > active
| > | > secure physical location
| > | > up-to-date security patches installed on operating system and
| > | > applications
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Or someone could just enter the physical location of your system
and
| > make
| > | > changes.
| > | >
| > | > There is a difference between what CAN be done and what is worth
| > something
| > | > to someone to actually DO. At the moment, in the USA, a 'national
| > | > security
| > | > letter' can get the US government most any information requested.
But
| > are
| > | > you worth the trouble B^)
| > | >
| > | > Phil Weldon
| > | >
| > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23RSl$MJ0HHA.3400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Hello again Phil - slight misunderstanding I fear!
| > | > |
| > | > | I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied
(at
| > extra
| > | > | cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
| > | > | + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all
up
| > to
| > | > date
| > | > | on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
| > | > |
| > | > | I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who
seem
| > | > adamant
| > | > | that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for
| > posting
| > | > | purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what
other
| > | > 'spy'
| > | > | might be being used to identify me.
| > | > |
| > | > | David
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| >
*************************************************************************************************
| > | > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | news:uRsqi.11417$rR.9799@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote:
| > | > | > | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!)
on
| > my
| > | > PC!
| > | > | > | Now I've got to determine which it is!
| > | > | > _____
| > | > | >
| > | > | > No, not lying - 'Beta' is a warning label that the software
may
| > not
| > | > work
| > | > | > as
| > | > | > intended. You should not depend on 'Beta' software for
critical
| > | > | > operations
| > | > | > (and keeping your system free of malware is a critical
operation.)
| > | > And
| > | > | > even
| > | > | > antimalware in production can give false alerts. If you are
going
| > to
| > | > use
| > | > | > an
| > | > | > on-line scan, pick one that is NOT 'beta' and that is more
| > thorough
| > | > than
| > | > | > 'Nanoscan'. Symantec and other antimalware publishers have
more
| > | > thorough
| > | > | > on-line scans
| > | > | >
| > | > | > As a comparison, the Symantec on-line virus scanner will scan
| > every
| > | > file
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > a system and take 20 minutes or more (fast system with >
100,000
| > | > files)
| > | > | > while 'Nanoscan' checks, on the same system in 20 seconds,
well,
| > who
| > | > | > knows?
| > | > | > ( I would imagine 'Nanoscan' checks memory, the registry, and
| > whatever
| > | > | > else
| > | > | > it can in 20 seconds. Something like 'Nanoscan' might
eventually
| > be
| > | > an
| > | > | > quick supplement to other malware detectors, but only a minor
| > | > supplement.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What antimalware protection do you use, and is it up-to-date
(an
| > in
| > | > either
| > | > | > the very latest definitions or definitions updated within the
last
| > two
| > | > | > days)?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Phil Weldon
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Phil Weldon
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:eXSXPTI0HHA.3940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!)
on
| > my
| > | > PC!
| > | > | > | Now I've got to determine which it is!
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks for your coments, Phil.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | BD
|
| <snip>
|
|




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