Re: Best Virus program

From: Phil Weldon (notdiscosed_at_example.com)
Date: 10/03/05 

Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 07:25:40 GMT

'PattiChati' wrote:
| I cannot get a post that far back, my available posts only go to August
4th.
| And I do read all the posts that are available to me.
| I don't really understand all you are saying in your post. I was just
| making a comment that why fight in the newsgroup - take it outside. So
you
| seem to be saying this type of back and forth fighting, when it is totally
| off the question is acceptable?
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A search using Google groups will access all posts to all Usenet newsgroups
for the last 10 or more years. In addition, your ISP, ComCast, to an almost
certainty carries several months, at a minimum, of posts for each newsgroup.
Just click on the [Headers] button in your newsreader, Outlook Express.
Each click will access a block of the next earlier posts until all the
message headers are retrieved. Very liklely you will find most of 2005
available.

The warning about the 'id' post is certainly NOT off topic in a security
newsgroup. Such a warning is part of the value of a good newsgroup. The
fact that the replies from 'id' are intemperate dosen't negate the value of
the warning posts. I don't believe behavior like 'id' in this and other
newsgroups is acceptable, but this is Usenet. The only thing than can be
done about posters you wish to ignore is to add each to your 'blocked
senders' list. Unfortunately posters like 'id' frequently change their
identity specifically to defeat tools like a 'blocked senders' list.
Overall this newsgroup is a serious and valuable resource with a very high
on-topic precentage.

Phil Weldon

"PattiChati" <PattiChati@anywhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:uuET6J9xFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I cannot get a post that far back, my available posts only go to August
>4th. And I do read all the posts that are available to me.
> I don't really understand all you are saying in your post. I was just
> making a comment that why fight in the newsgroup - take it outside. So
> you seem to be saying this type of back and forth fighting, when it is
> totally off the question is acceptable?
> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
> news:E220f.8762$q1.76@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> 'PattiChati' posted, in part:
>> | I was just hoping to hear from some other people, I thanked you for
>> your
>> | input. I open up the topic and see all these names and was excited
>> because
>> | I thought I got that much feedback - instead it was a couple of guys
>> | fighting over the internet. I was just hoping for more feedback.
>> Thank
>> | you.
>> _____
>>
>> It is a good idea to read some posts in a newsgroup before posting. This
>> will give you an idea of the character of a newsgroup, and you may also
>> find questions already answered. Many times, in fact. Your exact
>> question, in fact. The thread, for example, that began 27JUN05 with
>> 'Which Virus Program To Get' from 'boaz' and generated dozens of posts.
>>
>> Also consider that all posters are not equally knowledgeable. Generally
>> in a 'technical' newsgroup something like 'peer review' takes place. If
>> good information is posted then it stands. If bad information is posted,
>> then objections are raised. For you to post a comment like "I was just
>> hoping to hera from some other people, I thanked you for your input. I
>> open up the topic and see all these names and was excited because I
>> though I got that much feedback - instead it was a couple of guyes
>> fighting over the internet. I was just hoping for more feedback. Thank
>> you." is sorta off the point. After all, there is hardly any need for
>> more than a few posts - after all the question has been recently
>> discussed at length, and there are fewer than a dozen resonable
>> recommendations. Duplication isn't really necessary. What you've just
>> seen is a case of 'peer review.' One poster indulges in dangerous
>> practices. What could be more dangerous than downloads that could be
>> infectors? One recent and prominent Internet worm, 'Swen', distributed
>> very convincing fake Microsoft security patches which were actually an
>> infective worm. These infective patches are distributed by posts to
>> newsgroups and by email. You should be VERY careful about where you
>> obtain security applications. That is also the reason the the creators
>> and publishers of security programs are VERY careful to control how their
>> work is distributed, even if it is at no charge. Some individuals, for
>> one reason or another, set up sites that may or may not offer malware
>> along with applications for which permission to distribute has been
>> granted; applications for which there is no guarantee of freedom from
>> infection (which is why sites that DO have permission must link to the
>> home site.
>>
>> It is easy to check the presence and reputation of a poster in a
>> newsgroup like this. Just sort the posts by author, check the quantity,
>> a scan a few replies. 'David H. Lipman' did you a favor by warning
>> against whoever he or she was (the signiture of the individual changes)
>> dangerous practices. 'DHL' is without a doubt the most prolific poster to
>> this newsgroup and is certainly well received AND well respected.
>>
>> Google newsgroup searches can also be an interesting way of checking, if
>> not bona fides, at least the ratio of helpful contributions:heat, noise,
>> smoke, and dubious practices. You'll find over 3000 posts by 'David H.
>> Lipman', 7 by 'id' .
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@anywhere.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e%23Ak2G8xFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>I was just hoping to hear from some other people, I thanked you for your
>>>input. I open up the topic and see all these names and was excited
>>>because I thought I got that much feedback - instead it was a couple of
>>>guys fighting over the internet. I was just hoping for more feedback.
>>>Thank you.
>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>>> news:uW$iol7xFHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> From: "PattiChati" <PattiChati@anywhere.invalid>
>>>>
>>>> | Hey guys, I asked a question here and you spent all this time
>>>> trashing one
>>>> | another. I didn't think that was what newsgroups were for.
>>>> | I would really appreciate more input from some of you and I thank the
>>>> two of
>>>> | you that replied to me.
>>>> | Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> What else do you want ? I agve you the two *best*. However some more
>>>> choices with the CA
>>>> eTrust offer being the top of this list...
>>>>
>>>> AVAST -
>>>> http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html - FREE
>>>>
>>>> AntiVir -
>>>> http://www.free-av.com/ - FREE
>>>>
>>>> AVG -
>>>> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5 - FREE
>>>>
>>>> CA eTrust -
>>>> http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/index.cfm - FREE for one year.
>>>> { Free offer extended indefinitely }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave
>>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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