Re: Virus? - Disable .EXE, .COM, .LNK and group policy.

From: Malke (invalid_at_not-real.com)
Date: 05/25/05

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    Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:15:56 -0700
    
    

    Brian Hoyt wrote:

    > First I want to say I am not interested in removing the problem as I
    > can reimage machines, I am more interested in figuring out the cause
    > and prevention methods.
    >
    > We have recently started seeing behavior on laptops that appears to be
    > a
    > virus, I am however having great problem tracking it down. The
    > symptoms include but are limited to:
    > Disable in registry .EXE, .LNK and .COM
    > Disable most (if not all) Group Policy settings
    > Add a security warning on pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL on login screen that
    > is random characters.
    > Disable Shutdown from startup screen
    > Disalbe display of proper icons, I belive this is related to the .LNK
    > but it doesn't always happen.
    >
    > Once this happens a user can login to a machine. Applications cannot
    > be directly started but they can be started via opening an existing
    > document for
    > example. I have attempted to fix the registry to allow programs to
    > run but I haven't had any luck.
    >
    > Some background on the machines. The machines are of varied platforms
    > of
    > laptops and tablets. All are running custom images and the problem
    > has
    > ocurred across multiple images. The machines have Symantec Corporate
    > Anti-Virus and Lavasoft Ad-Aware Plus running in realtime. They are
    > all XP SP2 with patches within a month or two of recent.
    >
    > These are all student machines so I don't get a lot of detail of
    > cause. In almost all cases the machines either have AOL or AIM and
    > sometimes it is the
    > last thing the students ran. Most describe a burst of network traffic
    > and
    > then the problem ocurrs. In most cases they continue to work fine
    > until they
    > reboot and that is when all the links and applications stop working.
    > In a few rare cases Ad-Aware catches the registry changes and I have
    > been able to see some of them happen, I have not been able to find the
    > cause though.
    >
    > Any help or pointers on this much appreciated. If there are any
    > further details I can offer let me know.

    Cause can be any number of malware programs. This is pretty common
    behavior even with av. A lot of stuff comes in through the kids
    clicking on links sent in AIM, as you suspected. As you well know, the
    user has to practice Safe Hex as well as have current av/antispyware
    protection, and these kids just won't do that. Spend some time looking
    in the forums here:

    http://aumha.net
    http://www.wilderssecurity.com/
    http://forums.tomcoyote.org/
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com

    You'll get a good idea of how broad your question really is and why I
    can't give you a specific answer.

    Prevention? Lock down your workstations completely by using a domain and
    Group Policy, Deep Freeze, etc. If this isn't possible - perhaps the
    students own the laptops and you don't have the control over them you
    would need - then you either have to have a Large Stick (financial
    incentive) with the parents or just do what you've been doing - image
    the boxen and charge the parents for your time. Keep the rest of your
    school's networks isolated from the laptops.

    I help the tech god at my kid's school and we have a laptop program for
    7th & 8th graders. Because we are a private school, we can be pretty
    firm about what happens if the kids install cr*p and get a virus. If
    you are a public school, you probably don't have that ability. The
    public elementary schools here basically do nothing for the kids'
    computers - quite a few of my clients have children with laptops in the
    public schools and that is how I know this.

    If you want any more information about how we manage our laptop program,
    do post back.

    Good luck,

    Malke

    -- 
    Elephant Boy Computers
    www.elephantboycomputers.com
    "Don't Panic!"
    MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
    

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