Re: is lavasoft recommended

From: Sandi - Microsoft MVP (sandi_hardmeier_at_mvps.org)
Date: 05/25/04 

Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:49:25 +0800

Thanks Phil :o) 

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Phil Weldon wrote:
> Well, I know it is difficult to provide information for many different
> levels of user in one document.  Hyperlinks might be one way out, but
> the need to drill down through multiple levels of URL's and other
> hyperlinks is daunting to many who appeal in this newsgroup.  The
> first technical writing I did preceeded introduction of the IBM
> Selectic, and went through 26 versions in attempt to reach its
> audience in a straightforward and unambiguous manner (and this was
> for an operating system that was less than 8 K.)  However, where
> computers are concerned, there are so many details and choices that
> straightforward wars with unambiguous. 
> 
> With the straightforward/unambiguous dichotomy in mind -
> 
> rather than suggest "you must shut down as many suspicious processes
> as possible", consider this -
> ____
> Start the system without any items in the 'Startup' folder, then use
> 'TaskManager' to shut down all unnecessary processes.
> ____
> 
> That is a much less ambiguous directive since it needs no 'special'
> knowledge or proceedures. It can be followed even in absence of
> 'informed judgement' by using trial-trial-and-error.  Given an NT
> base operating system, you will not be allowed to shut down system
> critical processes, and not allow access to some other processes.  In
> fact, this inability to shut down a particular process probably
> applies to all the really hardy mal-ware, which calls into question
> this whole line of advice. 
> 
> Despite the question of the whole line of advice, as an example I
> provide the following.
> .....
> Expansion on the simple sentence "Start the system without any items
> in the 'Startup' folder, then use 'TaskManager' to shut down all
> unnecessary processes." must be made to account for different
> operating systems. Initial steps must be added (like 'disconnect from
> the internet and any other
> network.)  There is no clear and unambiguous definition of "suspicious
> processes" other than a long, yet still qualifed, explict and
> exhaustive list.
> .....
> And finally, "linking to it" is part of this problem.
> 
> "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23Z3HFqZQEHA.3660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Phil,
>> 
>> Write something better, publish it and we'll link to it.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> Phil Weldon wrote:
>>> No, and THAT link further makes my point about handwaving and
>>> mirrors.  It is large, and does not speak directly and clearly to
>>> 'How to tell "suspect processes"'.  If you don't believe me, try
>>> actually reading the information at the link
>>> http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23lfOacXQEHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Phil Weldon wrote:
>>>>> You know, I have doubts about the usefulness of the information at
>>>>> that URL.  It seems use a lot of hand-waving and mirrors to
>>>>> completly confuse the issue.  To whit, "and you must shut down as
>>>>> many suspect processes as possible"; give me a break.  How  to
>>>>> tell "suspect processes" would be a useful contribution, but I
>>>>> guess that would take up too much space.
>>>> 
>>>> How to tell suspect processes?  Did you miss this bit?
>>>> 
>>>> Disable suspect processes using MSCONFIG before booting into safe
>>>> mode. Use the information at the URL below as a guide:
>>>> http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
>>>> 
>>>> 
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