Re: Question for Dave Lipman

From: Bill Sanderson (Bill_Sanderson_at_msn.com.plugh.org)
Date: 05/14/04


Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:45:26 -0400

That may well be an example of an area where attachments might be a
reasonable idea.

I'd incourage you to stick with the regulars and try to get folks to
describe their problems carefully without using attachments, if at all
possible. It's important to have examples set a tone in a group, or
everybody things that an attachment is the right thing to do, and things get
out of hand.

In this group, I believe every attachment I've ever seen is a virus. This
is on-topic for the group, but annoying and dangerous nonetheless.

"Sandy Mann" <sandymann@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:ec7fzWHOEHA.640@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thank for the info Bill, the attachments that I was thinking of are Excel
> attachments that some new posters attach in the Excel NG's even although
> it
> is a non-binary NG. I think the I will continue fighting shy of opening
> them. The regulars in the Excel NG's say that most, if not all problems
> can
> be answered if the problem is explained well enough and I am sure that it
> is
> true.
>
> Regards
>
> Sandy
>
> --
> to e-mail direct replace @mailintor.com with @tiscali.co.uk
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
> news:eD0%23ds6NEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> If your email is patched to date, and not susceptable to some kinds of
> code
>> being run in the preview pane--or you turn that feature off, as I
>> do--preferring more real-estate for the headers--you can save an
> attachment
>> and test it with your antivirus, or submit it to antivirus vendors.
>>
>> I saved the attachment from the newsgroup message--that action alone
>> shouldn't have been possible if my antivirus had been up to snuff. I
>> then
>> later right-clicked and scanned the file regularly since then awaiting a
>> detection.
>>
>> I did that with the bug you mention, which was posted on May 5th to a
> number
>> of public groups. McAfee was able to detect it immediately. Computer
>> Associates EZ-Trust antivirus 6.1.7.0 only detected this bug as of this
>> morning.
>>
>> I would strongly recommend the average person to view any attachment in
> the
>> newsgroups as a virus, including suggestions to visit URL's which don't
> have
>> a clear context for the recommendation. There are some groups in which
>> attachments are important to the communication that takes place, but most
>> groups aren't in that category.
>>
>> Taking the action of saving an attachment, gives your antivirus a crack
>> at
>> the file, but also doesn't infect you if it turns out that your antivirus
> is
>> behind the times. I wouldn't view a positive rating by the antivirus as
> any
>> sort of proof that a file is safe--you need to consider all kinds of
>> additional context--and again, almost nothing in a newsgroup context
>> would
>> meet that bar for me.
>>
>>
>> "Sandy Mann" <sandymann@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>> news:u5wP5M6NEHA.664@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > Thank you for the w32/Spybot.worm.gen.b virus warning in
>> > microsoft.public.excel.misc. I have always wondered, how do you find
> that
>> > out without becoming infected yourself? I would like to be able check
>> > attachments before I opened them, is there any way of doing that?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Sandy
>> >
>> > --
>> > to e-mail direct replace @mailintor.com with @tiscali.co.uk
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



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