Re: any particular reason my posts get deleted?
From: Bill Sanderson (Bill_Sanderson_at_msn.com.plugh.org)
Date: 12/04/03
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:21:38 -0500
Has anyone re-tried their original post?
"Phil Weldon" <notdisclosed@example.com> wrote in message
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> I agree.
>
> You would think that any filters used by MS would, at the least, pass
words
> used in Microsoft publications; as in "Cumulative Security Update for
> Internet Explorer 6 SP1 (KB824145)".
>
> Any system, even with just the minimum necessary virus protection, scans
for
> quite a lot of signatures (and those signitures, necessarily, are more
> complicated than just the presence of a short string.) Therefore a filter
> that kicks a three character string is, if not dumb, a strong indication
of
> elevators that don't reach the top floor.
>
> Even more telling, the volume for microsoft.public.* newsgroups is not all
> that large. How many posts to microsoft.public.* arrive each day?
> Certainly fewer than(10*1000) + (100*100) + (1000*10) + (10,000*1) =
40,000.
> Assume an average body length of 100 bytes*30 lines = 3000 bytes per post
> (ignoring quotes from earlier in the thread.) That is a volume of less
than
> 120 Mbytes for ALL posts to all of the microsoft.public.* hierarchy in a
> day. Allow 600,000,000 CPU cycles to process each post (200,000 cycles
per
> byte.) Use ONE 2.4 GHz Xeon. That is 10,000 seconds, or less than two
> hours of CPU time at $1.00 US. Hmm, doesn't seem to be that much of a
> resource sink... I'll bet that a couple machine equivalents could
implement
> a bayesian filter across ALL of the posts to microsoft.public.* .
>
> --
> Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
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>
> "Veronica Loell" lista@nakawe.se wrote in message
> news:ezLUkleuDHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Bill Sanderson wrote / skrev:
> >
> > > "Veronica Loell" <lista@nakawe.se> wrote in message
> > > news:%237ZhlebuDHA.1596@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >>If they simply combined it with whether there was an attachment the
> > >>problem would be solved (as long as people dont send html-format
emails
> > >>of course ;-))
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > That's what I meant about the filters not being very smart. I really
> know
> > > nothing about them but suspect that given the volume of data being
> filtered,
> > > the likelyhood of more sophisticated decision making such as you
suggest
> > > isn't very high. This surely isn't a thought that has escaped the
> myriad
> > > minds at Microsoft that have been looking at this problem--they aren't
> dumb,
> > > but what they have at hand which can handle the magnitude of data
> involve
> > > may be.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, the level of sofistication of determining whether something has an
> > attachment is not exactly mindblowing. But I don't expect it to be
> > implemented. Do you seriously believe that a myriad of minds at
> > microsoft has thought about this problem? If they had, with the
> > resources they have they could surely come up with something that at
> > least works, one would hope...
> >
>
>
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