Re: Virus Groups in Yahoo? The End of Newsgroups
From: WuzzBot (mtnviews_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 10/31/03
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:21:27 GMT
When I went back, and, added the word compter, I got 160 hits. Using virus and
security got still smaller number of hits. Many of the previous hits were
biological or not related to computers. My point though is that there are many
nontrivial groups on Yahoo.
Every one of the 25 groups I belong to has some pretty tough moderators. I
subscribe to about 80 NG, and only once have I seen a moderator say anything
about posts. By moderator, I mean someone who exercised authority to stop a
posting. In fact, it was my post. We exchanged a few messages and he then
understood why I wanted it posted. He let it pass on as originally composed, and
I got the answer I expected.
I think being able to create a newsgroup is an excellent thing. I have one of my
own for our local science club. I refuse membership to anyone not in the
immediate community or club. If you wanted to create a Weldon YG for anyone with
your last name, you could easily do it. Some mfgers support the YG and actively
post messages on them to assist with posts.
Phil Weldon wrote:
> Being able to create a 'newsgroup' so easily is a good thing? Five hundred
> newsgroups related to computer virus infections is not a bounty, it is a
> morass. One of the best effects of a good newsgroup is peer review...
> erroneous or malicious statements are quickly called down if the newgroup
> develops a following. Once a subject area is fragmented so thoroughly as
> you indicate with the 500 number, well, who knows what may lurk?
>
> --
> Phil Weldon, philweldonatmindjumpdotcom
> For communication,
> replace "at" with the 'at sign'
> replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
> replace "dot" with "."
>
> "WuzzBot" <mtnviews@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA17F6B.797D1094@earthlink.net...
> > I wouldn't bet on it (size of YG). Way easier to create Y groups. I saw
> one the
> > other day that a guy created for some extremely narrow interest. I'd be
> willing
> > to bet there are easily as many topics. I think I entered the word virus
> last
> > night and got something like 500 or more newsgroups that deal with them in
> some
> > way or another. I'm familiar with the extent of NGs. Yes, there are many,
> and
> > some equally odd as the YG. It takes about 1 hour or less to create your
> own YG,
> > and requires very little computer knowledge.
> >
> > Phil Weldon wrote:
> >
> > > Do you have ANY idea how many active Usenet newsgroups there are? Tens
> of
> > > thousands. Yahoo groups are not even in the same league. Try reading a
> few
> > > FAQ's on Usenet newsgroups; it would be an eye-opener.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Phil Weldon, philweldonatmindjumpdotcom
> > > For communication,
> > > replace "at" with the 'at sign'
> > > replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
> > > replace "dot" with "."
> > >
> > > "WuzzBot" <mtnviews@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FA123EB.533EE44E@earthlink.net...
> > > > However, there is no one that can sweep or harvest the userids as they
> can
> > > with NGs.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, no archiving as is available to Google. There is a free archival
> > > search
> > > > available within each YG. I'd characterize the information as more
> > > tightly bound in
> > > > YG, but it's certainly available to anyone who can become a member of
> a
> > > YG. It would
> > > > be interesting to know the total size of YG. I'd bet in sheer number
> of
> > > groups they
> > > > easily outdistance NGs. I suspect the total volume of traffic is
> larger
> > > than NGs,
> > > > but I really don't know.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm not mistaken, Yahoo owns the newsgroup archives. I believe they
> > > took them
> > > > over a few years back from someone else.
> > > >
> > > > For ease of use, I like NGs, but for vulnerability I'd go the other
> way.
> > > For any
> > > > individual to be able to easily create a YG is an outstanding feature
> of
> > > YG. The
> > > > biggest detraction of YG is advertising.
> > > >
> > > > See my other follow up posting on several virus YG. None on Swen.
> > > >
> > > > WW
> > > >
> > > > Veronica Loell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > WuzzBot wrote / skrev:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that's true. Membership is declined in some instances if the
> > > owner or
> > > > > > moderator choose to do so. This happens rarely. I had it happen
> once
> > > for
> > > > > > something like a camera group of a specific type. I didn't have
> the
> > > camera but
> > > > > > was interested in it. The owner refused to let me in. Fine. His
> > > choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is not that you might be declined memebership, it is
> that
> > > > > you need to go through the signup process, and of course there is no
> > > > > anonomous access to the information, nor is there any general
> archiving
> > > > > such as google. All of this is because of the nature of the groups.
> All
> > > > > of wich is totally unacceptable in a free information environment.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Veronica
> > > >
> >
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