Re: KB 823980 MS Patch
From: Bill Sanderson (Bill_Sanderson_at_msn.com.plugh.org)
Date: 10/25/03
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:34:46 -0400
The other one I've heard people rave about is Turnpike. Haven't looked to
see that it still exists and is being kept up.
I'm tempted to go back to Agent. It is a simpler app, with no registry
footprint.
OE has the defect of finding your "database" of newsgoup posts suddenly
disappearing because a group becomes inaccessable--for example at the end of
a beta test, when private groups associated with the beta are closed.
Agent is clunky with respect to handling multiple newsservers, though--you
have to trick it by duplicating the install, as I recall.
OTOH, Agent is actively maintained, and a newer version of the paid
commercial product is in the works.
I think I haven't switched back largely because of inertia--I'm getting over
shingles and I haven't nearly the energy I should have and there's a
lengthening list of things I should be getting done, and switching
newsreaders is pretty low!
Its very easy to just download the free version of Agent, install and
configure it and try it out in a given group so you can compare how you like
it. It has been long enough since I ran it that I can't recall what the
"tricks" were--in OE, for example, I have rules set that highlight my own
messages and mark threads that I reply to as "watched" so I can see fairly
easily when there are responses I need to check on. Can't recall how those
mechanisms work in Agent.
"Pam" <pfloresatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
news:OWGetermDHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Bill: I've checked out Agent and Gravity, do you think they
> are worth switching to; is it simple to do so and worth it?
> If so, why aren't you using it? :o( Sometimes it's a good
> idea to switch dog foods, to cleanse your system. :o)
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in
> message news:%23PhWrePmDHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > 'course, you'll soon find that aficionados consider OE
> second rate at best,
> > and favor such things as Agent:
> >
> > http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php
> >
> > and Gravity:
> >
> > http://gravity.tbates.org/super.html
> >
> > (not sure that's the best link, anyone have an opinion?)
> >
> > (among others) to be far superior.
> >
> > I use OE, myself, as part of the Microsoft "eat your own dog
> food" ethic--I
> > do own a paid copy of Agent, but started using OE during a
> beta program, and
> > haven't switched back, although I regularly think I should.
> >
> > "Pam" <pfloresatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
> > news:uogGpLEmDHA.1884@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote
> in message
> > > news:e05r4z$lDHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Good choice. The link offered in the thread:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.updatexp.com/cryptographic-service.html
> > > >
> > > > > seems to be the authoritative set of instructions.
> > >
> > > ************
> > > > Hi Bill: Thanks for the thumbs up, I'm still trying to
> learn as much as
> > > possible, ever since you and Phil gave me the excellent
> advice to switch
> > to
> > > OE. I still have a lot to learn, but you guys have helped
> enormously, and
> > I
> > > think I've learned quite a bit with all your help.
> Advancing/learning is
> > > very important to me, as I hope it is with everyone else
> that needs it.
> > >
> > > 'Can't' thank you both enough! You both should be
> commended more often...
> > >
> > > Pam
> > >
> > > > "Pam" <pfloresatcharterdotnet> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23Vn3VsrlDHA.1004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Peter" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > news:044b01c396a9$bda5b960$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Help please: Can download the patch, but cannot
> install
> > > > > > it. The message is: Set-up could not verify the
> integrity
> > > > > > of the file update inf. Make sure that Cryptographic
> is
> > > > > > running on this computer.
> > > > > > Has anyone had the same experience and knows how to
> > > > > > proceed. Help is much appreciated.
> > > > > > Second, cannot install the Norton Internet Virus
> Scan SW,
> > > > > > error there is 1722, contact maker of product. Does
> > > > > > anyone have any idea what is going on and how to
> solve
> > > > > > this mystery.
> > > > > > Thanks a million.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Peter: Try reading the following link, it might just
> help with your
> > > error
> > > > > problem. Sorry, don't know anything about your
> Norton problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/wwwboard/forum/75573.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Luck,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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