RE: What about beginners?

From: lelteto (lelteto_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/28/05 

Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:26:04 -0700

What you describe is a typical catch-22: you need experience to get a job but
w/o a job in the field you cannot get experience :(
The only way to overcome is to enter the tech field in a lower level job
where they mey not require experience / certification.

If you want to go from the educational way than the definite answer is to go
to a college and major in Computer Science. CS BSS and MS graduates usually
will get jobs. (Well, it depends on the job market - which is improving right
now - and the college's prestige, too.)

Laszlo Elteto
SafeNet, Inc.

"ATR" wrote:

> Thanks for your response, but what you mean by on-teh-job? If you really mean
> a job in the tech field, that sound so difficult, I had before a hardware and
> software training, it helped me in the basics it is something close to A+ but
> less, But still so difficult to find an available opportunity, most of
> positions they ethier ask for certification or years of experience.
> If you have advise so share it with me, but if this tech job is not
> available so what can be the eductional step I should take as a beginner to
> be able to enter the world of Information security?
>
>
> Adola
> --
> Knowledge is good.
>
>
> "lelteto" wrote:
>
> > It is a mistake to try to get CERTIFICATION first. Instead, first you need
> > experience in the field. The best way to learn security is on-teh-job, where
> > you will learn real-world issues and how to solve them. After a few years in
> > the security field (like 4-5 years) if you still want certification than go
> > for the most-recognized one: CISSP (Certified Information Systems Security
> > Professional).
> >
> > Laszlo Elteto
> > SafeNet, Inc.
> >
> > "ATR" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > Where do I begin? That is my fundemental question, I love the subject of
> > > information security, but How and where do I begin? I do not know, What is
> > > the first step the begginers should take? beginners who do not have the
> > > enough knowledge about networks or servers or such things.
> > >
> > > When I read about Microsoft certifications or other kinds like Security+, It
> > > sound like it is mostly for proffisionals who just would like to add makeup
> > > to their faces to look better and that is all, So what kind of certification
> > > begginers need to start in the field of information security or what kind of
> > > certification begginers need before they can start in their favorite field?
> > > What the right educational steps they need?
> > >
> > > Its all about beginners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening.
> > >
> > >
> > > Adola
> > >
> > > --
> > > Knowledge is good.