RE: Impersonation / access rights for application

From: Frederic P. (FredericP_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/26/05

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    Try a COM+ component. The component is a basic COM but when properly setup in
    COM+, it will be called like a DCOM and can be configured to run in the
    account of your choice (including system account).

    It's a cleaner approch since you keep control of what is going wrong. By
    modifying Windows security, you are creating a breach. Also, it allows you to
    use the standard API which have better chances to be portable.

    Another plus is it allows you to create a clear separation between your
    business logic and your GUI.

    Fred.

    "Matthew Townsend" wrote:

    > Shortly after posting this I thought of another solution and it worked.
    >
    > All the microsoft power API really does is edit the registry.
    >
    > So I set the permissions to the power settings key in the registry via my
    > service and then set them back when I am done with my power settings changes.
    >
    > Works great.
    > --
    > Matthew Townsend
    >
    >
    > "Matthew Townsend" wrote:
    >
    > > We are developing a power management application. We want our customers to
    > > be able to use it from a limited account if their IT department permits it.
    > > To do this our application needs to have access rights to change power
    > > management settings.
    > >
    > > Solutions we have tried (and failed):
    > > 1) Write a service that runs as SYSTEM and have it start our application
    > > when told to do so... This starts our app fine but it does not display on
    > > the limited user's desktop. It does show up in the process viewer however so
    > > we know it is running. Any idea how to get it to show up for the limited
    > > user while still running under the SYSTEM user?
    > >
    > > 2) Write a service that runs as SYSTEM then passes a duplicate
    > > WindowsIdentity.Token object to our application which then can impersonate
    > > the higher level user. This does not work in two ways. First, the
    > > WindowsIdentity.Token does not seem to work for a System user. Second, even
    > > if I try it from another application when I pass the token to the other
    > > process it is no longer valid. My guess is that acces tokens are processor
    > > specific? Any idea if it is possible to pass an access token from one
    > > process to another?
    > >
    > > 3) Using "run as" when running the application, this works however, you must
    > > do this everytime you run it and it requires the limited user to know the
    > > user name and password of an administrator account.
    > >
    > > 4) Using task scheduler and running it as an admin user, this runs the app
    > > but has the same problem as 1 in that the limited user is not displayed the
    > > GUI. Again, is there a way to get it to show up for the limited user but
    > > still run with the permissions of an admin user?
    > >
    > > 5)Storing the user name as password of an administrator somewhere in our
    > > application and then calling LogonUser to get token, duplicating said token,
    > > and then impersonating the user. This works great but there are fundamental
    > > issues: a) Our customers definitely would not want us putting an admin user
    > > on their system and would delete it.
    > > b) Given a, we would not know that admin username and password and thus our
    > > customer's IT dept. would have to setup the user name and password in our
    > > application (something which they would not like to do I would imaging).
    > > c) Storing a user name and password of an admin user in our application
    > > would require us to be much more rigid security wise which we would prefer to
    > > avoid.
    > > --
    > > Matthew Townsend


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