Re: Smartcard CSP Problem
From: WT (wyt168_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 01/11/05
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:03:38 GMT
Whoops, here's the clipping of the postings I mentioned.
Winston
"WT" <wyt168@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:...
> Can I implement a custom GINA or provide hooks for GINA so as to simulate
> smartcard events?
> I found a posting by David Hunter who is also interested in simulating a
> smart
> card logon using PKI (see attached file for the thread of postings). In
> that
> e-mail, it is suggested that it is possible to simulate a smart card logon
> by a custom GINA or modifying GINA by using hooks.
> I don't know if David is successful in implementing that.
> I would appreciate some feedback whether this is do-able or not.
> Winston
>
> "Eric Perlin [MS]" <ericperl@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ej3Ke709EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> The answer to 1 depends on the scenarios you want to cover. It would work
>> for S-MIME. It won't for Smartcard Logon.
>> Emulating a smartcard reader is required for smartcard logon. Winlogon
>> uses
>> the standard smartcard APIs to detect readers and cards.
>> The answer to 3 is NO (see above).
>> --
>> Eric Perlin [MS]
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> ---
>>
>> "WinstonT" <wyt168@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:n3pEd.3215$pZ4.1865@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> We are trying to do similar things too--except we do have a hardware USB
>>> flash drive with an embedded crypto processor to perform the encryption.
>>> However, the crypto processor is not a smart card and it has its own
>> crypto
>>> interface API for the application to access its crypto functions.
>>> We are trying to write a custom CSP to allow apps to access the crypto
>>> processor via the CryptoAPI to perform things like two factor
>>> authentication. In a sense, we want the USB token to perform the exact
>>> function of a smart card.
>>> Here's my questions:
>>> 1. Would a simple CSP DLL work in this case? My idea is to write the CSP
>> DLL
>>> to access the native crypto processor's API and wrap them so as to
>>> expose
>>> these native API's as the CryptoSPI.
>>> 2. Is there a need to emulate a smart card? If the answer to Q1 is no,
>> then
>>> I may have to write a driver to virtualize our USB token as a smart
>>> card.
>> Do
>>> I have to emulated the complete PC/SC interface? i.e. do I have to
>>> emulate
>>> all the card tracking functions, the T=0, T=1 transactions, etc.?
>>> 3. From your comments below, it appears that MSGina actually monitor the
>>> card insertion/removal events to check for the physical presence of a
>> smart
>>> card. Can we define a new custom class of devices such as USB tokens
>>> such
>>> that they can also be allowed for WinLogon or authentications?
>>> Best regards,
>>> Winston
>>>
>>> "Eric Perlin [MS]" <ericperl@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23T0VpV%232EHA.1076@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> > You don't need to emulate a smartcard CSP for it to work with S-MIME.
>>> > A
>>> > software CSP can be used in this case.
>>> > But your "simulated" smartcard CSP is not going to work for Windows
>> logon.
>>> > Winlogon/msgina really look for physical smartcards.
>>> > Without something that's exposed through the smartcard subsystem,
>>> > you're
>>> > not
>>> > even going to get a PIN prompt.
>>> > --
>>> > Eric Perlin [MS]
>>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> > rights.
>>> > ---
>>> >
>>> > "Alf" <alf1982@hotmail.de> wrote in message
>>> > news:eoy#CMg1EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Hello, maybe somebody can help me out!
>>> >>
>>> >> I am to develop a SmartCard CSP, but with no actual SmartCard behind
>> it,
>>> > but
>>> >> rather a Software System that simulates it.
>>> >>
>>> >> I so far devloped a CSP which wrappes the MS Base CSP for the common
>>> >> functionality and will use the System for the Rest.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now, I have a logical problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> The CSP should be used for Mail Signing and encrypting in Outlook, as
>>> >> well
>>> >> as for windows logon.
>>> >>
>>> >> If I understood the concept of the certificate handling in windows,
>>> >> you
>>> > have
>>> >> to enroll a certificate for a certain user who is present in the
>>> >> active
>>> >> directory - let's call him Bob. When enrolling this certificate, you
>>> > choose
>>> >> the type (smartcard certificate) and the corresponding CSP (in this
>> case,
>>> > my
>>> >> CSP).
>>> >>
>>> >> The result of the enrollement would be a new certificate stored on
>>> >> the
>>> >> SmartCard and installed in windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> Question: Am I rigth with the above?
>>> >> Then - next Question: How does the enrollemnt process create and
>>> >> store
>>> >> the
>>> >> certificates on the SmartCard since the CryptoApi (CP* ) functions do
>> not
>>> >> provide certification handling - Does the enrollement task itsself
>> store
>>> > the
>>> >> certifcate to the SmartCard? (And how, cia driver?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Are there any other usefull documentations on what a SmartCard CSP
>>> >> has
>> to
>>> >> implement?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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