Re: keep IIS in RAM

FWIW I have Windows XP SP2 running inside a VPC right now with 640MB of
physical RAM, and no page file configured. Current commit charge is ~100MB

Cheers
Ken


"Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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:: Ken Schaefer wrote:
::
:: > "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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:: > : David Wang [Msft] wrote:
:: > :
:: > : > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough
RAM
: for
:: > : > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM.
:: > :
:: > : Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on
: both
:: > : Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both
: showed
:: > about
:: > : 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up.
:: > :
:: > : Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both
:: > complained
:: > : about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop.
:: >
:: > Neither Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP by itself requires more than 1GB
: of
:: > RAM just to boot. You must have other applications configured to run
: during
:: > startup or logon that are reserving or committing memory.
::
:: Ok, but you did not answer my question: Have you ever tried to disable
the
: pagefile?
:
: Yes, I have as an experiment. Yes, I've been able to boot a generic
Windows
: XP Pro box (with nothing else installed) with 1GB of installed RAM. I've
had
: this discussion with many people (the merits of running without a
pagefile).
: Personally I do not think that you should disable it, but you certainly
can.
:
: Consider also that the minimum specs for running Windows XP are 128MB of
: RAM, and that by default Windows XP creates a pagefile 1.5 times the
: installed RAM size, with max pagefile 3 times the installed RAM. That
would
: give the machine a total of 640MB of RAM (physical *and* virtual). So the
: machine must be bootable with just 640MB of memory.
:
:: : It was just 6 weeks ago that I accidentally disabled the page file on a
: W2K Pro
:: system while upgrading to a larger hard drive. Like I said, when that
: machine
:: booted the total commit charge was about 150 MB. This was a fairly new
: install,
:: and did not have anything I would call unusual running at start up. This
:: computer has 1 GB of RAM, and the error message box that repeatedly came
: up
:: warned that virtual memory was low, and that I needed to close some
: applications
:: to continue. Just 'for fun', I sat there for about 10 minutes with my
: finger on
:: the return key, constantly clearing out that message box, and I never
: could get
:: to the desktop.
:
: Then you have something else running that is reserving RAM (presumably
it's
: not committed as the commit charge is quite low)
:
::
:: > : Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more
:: > intelligently....
:: >
:: > Um, has nothing to do with handling memory more intelligently. If you
: run a
:: > program that reserves 500MB of RAM, and that isn't available, the
: program
:: > either needs to handle that, or it crashes and gets terminated by
: Windows.
::
:: Don't get me started on Windows memory management...
:
: Memory is memory, regardless of whether it is physical or virtual. If a
: program asks for 500MB of memory (whether reserving or committing), then
: that has *nothing* to do with Windows memory management. Either the RAM
: exists (either physical or virtual) or it doesn't exist. There is nothing
: that Windows memory management can do about this.
:
: Cheers
: Ken
:
:


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