Re: Trying to understand this behavior, Ports in IIS

From: David Wang [Msft] (someone_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/27/05

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    >I attempted to access such https://mysite.mycompany.com from
    > a host on the same network where the site was - it worked great.
    > I did a portqry.exe -n mysite.mycompany.com -e 443 and it was
    > successful. That tells me the ISA server was accepting the connections.

    > I went back to the IIS site and changed it from port 8080 to port
    > 8081; I changed the ISA web listener to port 8081. That did not
    > break it, I still can access the site from the Internet.

    If I understood your configuration correctly, you have just stated that the
    strange behavior has nothing to do with IIS-related behavior.

    >Then I decided to change the access-list in the Cisco border
    > router and in the PIX firewall from "allow 80" to "allow 8080".
    > The whole thing worked instantly and I was then able to connect
    > to https://mysite.mycompany.com from the Internet.

    It seems that the strange behavior is in this layer somewhere. I do not see
    IIS involved in here, so the best thing I can suggest is for you to obtain
    support for your questions from those respective vendors.

    -- 
    //David
    IIS
    http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    //
    "Marlon Brown" <nospamarlon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:urhaQ0qeFHA.256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    Sure. Here we go:
    First of all, I followed the steps to publish "Sharepoint 2003 - ISA 2004".
    I don't have a link to this document since it was a hand-out given at MS,
    but basically the document tells me to go the respective IIS website and
    assign port 8080 (instead of 80).
    Then on ISA 2004, I created a publishing rule that it states SSL=443 (note
    that 80 or 8080 was not selected). In the web listener yes, the instructions
    told me to do listen on port = 8080 and SSL port=443.
    In the border router and in the PIX firewall (both devices are "in front of"
    the ISA 2004) I made sure the access-lists were opened accordingly for both
    80 and 443.
    I attempted to access such https://mysite.mycompany.com from a host on the
    same network where the site was - it worked great.  I did a portqry.exe -n
    mysite.mycompany.com -e 443 and it was successful. That tells me the ISA
    server was accepting the connections.
    I tried to access https://mysite.mycompany.com from the Internet and it
    resolved OK to the respective IP address, but it always failed (DNS error,
    page cannot be displayed).
    Then I did a portqry.exe -n mysite.comapany.com -e 443 and it returned
    'filtered'. Definitely this was "blocked" somewhere.
    Then I decided to change the access-list in the Cisco border router and in
    the PIX firewall from "allow 80" to "allow 8080".
    The whole thing worked instantly and I was then able to connect to
    https://mysite.mycompany.com from the Internet.
    Out of curiosity:
    I go to the PIX firewall and border router and there is no hitcount for the
    8080 access-list.
    I took traces of client and server connections and I only see traffic on
    port 443.
    I went back to the IIS site and changed it from port 8080 to port 8081; I
    changed the ISA web listener to port 8081. That did not break it, I still
    can access the site from the Internet.
    Perhaps this was anomaly that got cleared after I changed the access-list in
    the router or PIX firewall, because the way I see it is that this 8080 port
    is doing nothing.
    "David Wang [Msft]" <someone@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:eCWtWkjeFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Well, the issue could be with your:
    > 1. Checkpoint firewall
    > 2. network devices between the firewall and ISA Server
    > 3. ISA Server
    > 4. network devices between ISA Server and IIS
    > 5. IIS server
    >
    > Can you please describe the steps you took to determine that issues #1
    > through #4 were not happening, thus it must be #5 that is causing the
    > strange behavior?
    >
    > Given your current information, the issue seems to be with the Checkpoint
    > firewall.
    >
    > -- 
    > //David
    > IIS
    > http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights.
    > //
    > "Marlon Brown" <nospamarlon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23nuE0LeeFHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Correct. It should work over 443, but then the connection from client to
    > server was successful only upon opening port 8080 in the firewall. This is
    > the part I can't understand.
    > "David Wang [Msft]" <someone@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:OK$olWdeFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> I'm not certain what your question is about. Can you clarify?
    >>
    >>
    >> Your requests are over https:// , which default to port 443. This means
    >> that
    >> for those requests, you should NOT see traffic over HTTP/8080 -- which is
    >> exactly what you are seeing. So, I'm confused at what behavior you are
    >> trying to understand because it all looks by-design to me right now.
    >>
    >> -- 
    >> //David
    >> IIS
    >> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights.
    >> //
    >> "Marlon" <marlon-nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eNNYszMeFHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> Win2003, IIS6.
    >> Under "Internet Information Services/Web Sites" snap-in, I've created a
    >>
    >> "Mysite" site.
    >>
    >> If I click "Properties", "Web Site" tab, I see the following information:
    >> TCP Port=8080      SSL=443
    >>
    >> I published this site via ISA 2004. In ISA I setup a web listener to
    >> "listen
    >> on port 8080" and "SSL=443".
    >>
    >> Then when I browse
    >> https://mysite.mycompany.com
    >>
    >> I take traces and I see no indication of port 8080 being in use. Netmon
    >> doesn't show that packets use port 8080 at all neither on the client or
    >> the
    >> server during the request to https://mysite.mycompany.com (all the
    >> communications are happening over SSL).
    >>
    >> The strange part is this:
    >> Prior to 'open' port 8080 in our main edge Checkpoint firewall, the site
    >> was
    >> unreachable from the "Internet".
    >> Perhaps even more strange, after opening the port in the edge firewall
    >> and
    >> make the whole thing work, I go back to the edge firewall and I see *no*
    >> hits in the access-list related to port 8080.
    >>
    >> What would this port 8080 be used for this in this situation ? I am
    >> curious.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    

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