Re: iis lockdown & admin logout

From: lt (tighe@brandeis.edu)
Date: 03/06/03


From: "lt" <tighe@brandeis.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:47:48 -0800


David,

Thanks ... administrator definitely wasn't used as the
anonymous user on virtual directories, but appears to have
been switched into the anonymous user group during the iis
lockdown ... and all of the other accounts (had a couple
of "power" users that had administrator privileges) all
experienced the same problem post iis lockdown runtime
error (wasn't just the single administrator account). But
thanks re: HDD tip ....

>-----Original Message-----
>I asked around, and I was told that if you used the
administrator account as
>the "Anonymous User" on any vdir, you will get into this
state. All
>Anonymous Users are placed in a web_anonymous group,
which is then denied
>access to the System32 directory (so it can't run
cmd.exe, etc to even log
>in). Once in this state, if you don't have another
administrative account,
>you're hosed.
>
>You can get out of any NTFS ACL situation, though, by
physically moving the
>affected HDD to another machine that's also running
NTFS. You log in as the
>administrator on the other machine and reset ACLs on the
affected HDD.
>
>--
>//David
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>//
>"lt" <tighe@brandeis.edu> wrote in message
>news:054801c2e34f$8b718770$3401280a@phx.gbl...
>
>David,
>
>Running Windows 2000 Server + all latest service packs and
>hotfixes. It's running only the webservice (no active
>directory or other services). We had run the IIS lockdown
>when we originally set the machine up. Since then, we had
>made a number of changes to the site, and I thought maybe
>it would be good to "re-run" the IIS lockdown tool. It
>detected that it had already been run and said it would
>revert settings to default (or original?) settings before
>re-running. I said "okay". It went through the process
>of reverting and then while it was running to re-apply is
>when the runtime error occurred. So, my guess is that it
>had to do with re-running it since we had run it
>originally on the machine and had no problems. And,
>another user suggested that it's switching the admin
>account into the "web_anonymous" group, which has no log
>on locally privileges. When one tries to logon with any
>valid account on the machine, it loads all the local
>settings and then logs you out. So, that log-on locally
>security settins were changed does appear to be the
>issue.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hmm, I have not heard about this, but I will check on
>getting an
>>investigation on it so that we can release possible
>workarounds (either
>>programmatic fix, or how to get out of the situation).
>>
>>So, it's just running NT4 Server + latest IIS Lockdown
>results in a runtime
>>error?
>>
>>--
>>//David
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>//
>>"Wayne & Carr" <NoSpam@spam.net> wrote in message
>>news:uRNBpve4CHA.2296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>You have just ran into a Major problem, That myself had
>in my network
>>On my server, that usually gets about 500+ hits per day.
>>I tried everything that everyone told me to do, And it
>did not work.
>>If you are running the "WinNT 4.0 Server" And the
>new "iis lockdown"
>>Then, I think that there seems to be an issue with it and
>running it on NT4.
>>Not sure, this is just my own personal opinion.
>>
>>Though I got a log of good suggestion from people in the
>newsgroup(s),
>>known of them worked.
>>I indeeded up having to reinstall my server from
>scratch "AGAIN".
>>
>>Because there is one thing that you have to look at.
>>When you installed the "iis lockdown" tool, and you got
>the runtime error,
>>>From that point on, you basically have lost all rights to
>your server.
>>Which is a pain in the A**, but there is basically
>nothing that I am aware
>>off
>>And that all the suggestions that I got in, no one was
>able to tell me,
>>Yes this worked for me, It was all just,"Try this, Read
>more into the iis
>>lockdown next time,
>>and so forth,"
>>
>>So, unless you can find someone that has "Successfully"
>fixed this issue,
>>There is not much that
>>you can do, But I would wait, and if you are running a
>productive server,
>>(Like I am here)
>>Then you are most likely wanting to get it back LIVE
>a.s.a.p.
>>Think about doing to reinstall,
>>It takes me about 4 hours, from shut down, to being back
>Fully online again,
>>To do mine.
>>Then pointing records, and setting up DNS, is an
>additional 1 hour.
>>So basically about 5hours, and it is ready.
>>
>>Sorry that this is not what you are wanting to hear.
>>
>>Take Care
>>Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>



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