Re: Security makes .Net a JOKE.....

From: Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP] (onyxkirx_at_--NOSPAM--comcast.net)
Date: 03/05/04

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    "SStory" <TheStorys@TAKEOUTTHISSPAMBUSTERsofthome.net> wrote in message
    news:eda1uBXAEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Honestly, Todd, I must agree with Earthworm a bit....
    >
    > There may be some great solutions but finding them is like searching for
    > platnum.
    >
    > 1.) Best way to protect intellectual property? And afford it?

    That one is easy, there are two choices: keep it to yourself or write
    immensly boring stuff(believe it or not, most protection is the latter, no
    one simply cares). You can't protect intellectual property that you release.
    You can sue, you can run massive campaigns against theft, and you'll *still*
    have your property stolen. Obfusticate, use C++ and native code, sell your
    software sealed in a chip...someone is still going to steal it if its
    interesting.
    > 2.) Best way to distribute and license and yet be able to update?

    This one is difficult, and depends strongly on what you are doing. No single
    platform offers much of a solution to this, and like above, licensing is
    really just for the honest person, anyone who wants to steal your software
    will, be it in C++ or .NET, your license can(and will) still be broken.

    Best way to distribute depends heavily on the app. A small app is
    downloadable, but if your app is 500 megs, then the best is bound to be cd
    based.
    > I have searched for some time and still don't have a good complete
    > solution.
    >
    > Shane
    >
    > "ToddT" <NOturczytj@SPAMmaritz.com> wrote in message
    > news:gfik30hjcktaa1ul7b1t18bm4eb31j52r3@4ax.com...
    >> searching on "code security" in msdn found several high-level and
    >> several overview documents (and step-by-step tutorials) on the
    >> subject. is microsoft asking too much that you actually read an
    >> article or two?
    >>
    >>
    >> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:37:18 -0000, "Earth Worm Jim" <sdd> wrote:
    >>
    >> >OH AND NOT EVERY DEVELOPER WANTS TO BECOME A SECURITY EXPERT JUST SO
    >> >THAT
    >> >THEY CAN GET THERE APPLICATION OUT THERE IS THE REAL WORLD.
    >> >
    >> >IS IT TO MUCH TO ASK FOR A COMPLETE EXAMPLE AND NOT JUST STUPID EXAMPLES
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >"Earth Worm Jim" <sdd> wrote in message
    >> >news:evFZgFj#DHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >> >> MICROSOFT IF YOU WANT TO STOP SECURITY LEAKS IN DEVELOPERS CODE TRY
    > MAKING
    >> >> THE DOCUMENTATION ON HOW TO SECURE .NET APPLICATION UNDERSTANDABLE,
    >> >> TRY
    >> >> WRITING IT IN ENGLISH AND NOT JARGON.
    >> >>
    >> >> ALL I WANTED TO KNOW WAS HOW TO DETERMINE WHICH PERMISSIONS AN
    >> >> ASSEMBLY
    >> >> NEEDS AND HOW TO DENY ALL OTHER PERMISSIONS
    >> >>
    >> >> BUT YOU CAN'T DO THIS EASILY.
    >> >>
    >> >> EARTH WORM JIM
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >>
    >
    >

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