Re: Sysmask security challenge: 1 week and +300 arbitrary code assaults, still resisting

From: Barton L. Phillips (bartonphillips_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 04/21/05 

Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:32:27 GMT

Casper H.S. *** wrote:
> Ku Karlovsky <nospam@nospam.nospam.not> writes:
>
>
>>On 20 Apr 2005 13:14:30 GMT, Casper H.S. *** <Casper.***@Sun.COM>
>>wrote in message <<426655b6$0$150$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>>:
>
>
>>>>One would expect that you know the difference between hacker and cracker
>>>>...
>>>
>>>One would expect people to know that common usage dictates the
>>>meaning of words, and not a fringe group of experts.
>
>
>>Did you mean a fringe group like the OpenSolaris Community Advisory
>>Board?
>
>
>
> What, re we all so touchy about losing the hacker/cracker battle
> that we show that we run out of arguments by using ad-hominem attacks?
>
> A long time ago I, too, fervently argued for the hacker/cracker
> distinction; but at least I'm man enough to admit that this
> is a lost cause; and smart enough to understand how words
> derive their meaning. If 99.9% of the community thinks
> that a hacker is someone who breaks into computers without permission,
> then that is good enough for me (and I'm being generous giving
> the hacker/cracker distinction support of .1% of the population)
>
> Oh, and I do consider myself one of the "fringe group of experts";
> I've just given up on the cracker/hacker distinction.
>
> Casper
That's for sure. Most non gurus think hacker is cracker. That is the
language so live with it.

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