Re: [Lit.] Buffer overruns

From: karl malbrain (karl_m_at_acm.org)
Date: 12/17/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:16:31 -0800

"Mok-Kong Shen" <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:cpt7md$900$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>
>
> karl malbrain wrote:
>
> > "Mok-Kong Shen" <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> >>karl malbrain wrote:
> >>
> >>>That's why you developed a layered system using C at the base level.
> >
> > You
> >
> >>>build layers on that which improve the productivity (and safety) of
> >>>"average" programmers. karl m
> >>
> >>Couldn't one with the same argument also develop a layered system
> >>using assembler at the base level? (I hope that you see my point.)
> >
> >
> > But we don't need to since we have C, which is the next level up. Ada
is a
> > possible replacement, but it's an open question. It's way too
complicated
> > for what I need on my bottom layer, for example. I suppose I could have
> > implemented using assembler, but thankfully I didn't need to.
>
> 'Way to complicated' is subjective. A foreign langauge always
> appears to be way to complicated for a person who begins
> to learn it, until he has obtained some competency and then
> looks back. Of course, it may be easier in case the foreign
> language is related to one's native language or another
> language that one has already mastered. Thus Pascal
> programmers should have less learning effort for ADA.
> (Similarly C programmers can more readily learn C++, I believe.)

Of course it's subjective -- being based completely on experience. That's
why I gave the example of what Ada is going to have to compete with: A
single C statement that wouldn't benefit from what Ada offers. The argument
grows upward from there to Ada being completely redundant at the bottom
layer. karl m

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