Re: Question Please Help!

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Date: 05/22/03

  • Next message: Wartan Hachaturow: "Re: Question Please Help!" 
    Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:13:29 +0000 (UTC)

    Wartan Hachaturow <wart@softhome.net> wrote:
    > Bit Twister wrote:

    >>> Is Unix security better than Windows?
    >> Yes

    > I wouldn't answer this question with such a confidence.
    I would.

    >>> Why is that?
    >> Security is in the design of the system.

    > Really? Do you really think that, for example, having an uid 0
    > account with the ultimate power is "secure"?
    There is always a need for "elevated privilegies". If that is
    done "the unix way" or with a zillion discrete "privs" ( interacting
    in strange and unforessen ways) is a design descition. I think ( but
    that is an opinion) unix made the right descition.

    >>> What makes it better?
    >> None of the software allows the regular user to install malware
    >> which can impact anyone else on the system.

    Are you joking ???

    > Consider Windows NT and successors. Same argument applies.

    > "Security" is a word with a really, really broad range of meanings.
    > Yes, Unix-oriented services are generally written in a more secure
    > way, thus having less bugs that may lead to security problems.
    > Generally -- because I won't speak for every single piece of software
    > on Earth that runs on MS Windows or on Unix.
    > Yes, Unix systems are _generally_ being administered by skilled
    > people, and thus are more secure (by means of, for example, a number
    > of open unneeded tcp ports) -- but trust me, there are plenty of
    > lame root's out there, who's systems are less secure then Windows 98
    > unfirewalled on the Internet.
    > Yes, Windows-based systems require more work to stay up-to-date with
    > serivce packs, etc. and more work to get tuned to a "somewhat secure,
    > according to the current needs status", but that's how Microsoft
    > treats it. Skilled Windows admin may make it hard to break.
    > Most of the security problems on Windows come from the Microsoft's
    > idea that comfort is prevalent over security -- that's why, for example,
    > Outlook by default executes attachments. Unix isn't (generally, again)
    > meant to be used and administrated by a housewife.

    Aggree

    > So, It Depends :)
    Aggree

    > --
    > Regards, Wartan. 

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