Re: Exam revision - audit security problems

From: ToxicSeahorse (like@yea.right)
Date: 01/15/03


From: "ToxicSeahorse" <like@yea.right>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:49:34 +0000 (UTC)


"Nick Maclaren" <nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:b00gbi$hii$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>
> In article <thvv-044E41.23423913012003@news.comcast.giganews.com>,
> Tom Van Vleck <thvv@multicians.org> writes:
> |> "ToxicSeahorse" wrote:
> |> > Audit as a logging mechanism can be used to monitor security issues.
Can the
> |> > audit process itself pose any security-related problems on the
system?
> |> >
> |> > Off the top of my head, I came up with spoofing the audit logs or
directly
> |> > hacking them - although I think there is probably a much more logical
> |> > explanation. Do any of you UNIX gurus have any input?
> |>
> |> What happens when there are a lot of audit events?
> |> Eventually something fills up. What do you do then?
> |> - stop, so as not to lose anything
> |> - forget something, if so, what
> |>
> |> What happens if audit events come more rapidly than your
> |> log can write them out?
> |>
> |> Perennial problems.
>
> You can also ensure that hacking attempts are not logged by crashing
> the system that way! An old trick :-)
>
> There is also information leakage - by monitoring the audit data,
> even the file size, you can see when other subsystems are active.
>
> This is particularly serious when you have a decent security system
> (i.e. not 'root' and 'the rest'), because the auditor has read-only
> privileges beyond even the system administrator, and you have to be
> careful that he cannot make use of that to get administrator
> privileges.

Thanks very much for the replies,

Cheers,

Ted



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