Our Data : an appeal - a "Plimsoll line" for computer security

From: David Mohring (heretic@heretic.ihug.co.nz)
Date: 06/13/02

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    From: heretic@heretic.ihug.co.nz (David Mohring)
    Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:28:42 +0000 (UTC)
    
    

    An invitation to discussion in comp.os.linux.security.

    However relatively bad the security of Microsoft's products are in
    comparison to what the free licensed and open source communities (
    as well as practically every other vendor on the planet ) provide,
    Microsoft is not alone in the presence of vulnerabilities, this is
    a major issue for Linux/BSD and Unix as well as ever other OS and
    vendor.

    >From the Plimsoll Club history
    http://www.plimsoll.com/history.html

    +Samuel Plimsoll, M.P.
    +(1824-1898)
    +
    +Samuel Plimsoll brought about one of the greatest shipping
    +revolutions ever known by shocking the British nation into making
    +reforms which have saved the lives of countless seamen. By the
    +mid-1800's, the overloading of English ships had become a national
    +problem. Plimsoll took up as a crusade the plan of James Hall to
    +require that vessels bear a load line marking indicating when they
    +were overloaded, hence ensuring the safety of crew and cargo. His
    +violent speeches aroused the House of Commons; his book, Our
    +Seamen, shocked the people at large into clamorous indignation.
    +His book also earned him the hatred of many shipowners who set in
    +train a series of legal battles against Plimsoll. Through this
    +adversity and personal loss, Plimsoll clung doggedly to his facts.
    +He fought to the point of utter exhaustion until finally, in 1876,
    +Parliament was forced to pass the Unseaworthy Ships Bill into law,
    +requiring that vessels bear the load line freeboard marking. It
    +was soon known as the "Plimsoll Mark" and was eventually adopted
    +by all maritime nations of the world.

    The risks,issues and solutions for providing a more secure
    operating and application enviroment have been known for decades.

    Those who do not already comprehend the issues and are willing to
    learn, should take some time out to listen to some of the speeches
    at Dr. Dobbs Journal's Technetcast security archives...
    http://technetcast.ddj.com/tnc_catalog.html?item_id=502

    ..., starting with Meeting Future Security Challenges
    http://technetcast.ddj.com/tnc_play_stream.html?stream_id=411
    by Dr. Blaine Burnham, Director, Georgia Tech Information Security
    Center (GTISC) and previously with the National Security Agency
    (NSA)

    The design and implementation of some applications and servers are
    just too unsafe to use in the "open ocean" of the internet.

    Numerous security experts have railed against Microsoft's lack of
    security, best summed up by Bruce Schneier Founder and CTO
    Counterpane Internet Security, Inc who rightly said ...
    http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0201.html#1
    +Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we
    +have some fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's
    +poor products are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on
    +them because they've done more to harm Internet security than
    +anyone else, because they repeatedly lie to the public about their
    +products' security, and because they do everything they can to
    +convince people that the problems lie anywhere but inside
    +Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities as public
    +relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this kind
    +of nonsense from Microsoft and its products. (Note to Gartner: The
    +vulnerabilities will come, a couple of them a week, for years and
    +years...until people stop looking for them. Waiting six months
    +isn't going to make this OS safer.)

    However Microsoft's products are not alone in the presence of
    vulnerabilities, this is a major issue for Linux/BSD and
    Unix as well as any other OS and vendor.

    In a recent speech "Fixing Network Security by Hacking the
    Business Climate", also now on Technetcast
    http://technetcast.ddj.com/tnc_play_stream.html?stream_id=700
    , Bruce Schneier claimed that for change to occur, the software
    industry must become libel for damages from "unsecure" software,
    however historically, this has not always been the case, since
    most businesses can insure against damages and pass the cost along
    to the consumer.

    The Ford Pinto and more recently the Ford Explorer's tires are two
    examples of public and media pressure being more successful than
    just threat of lawsuits. Even so, just as with the automotive
    industry, eventually though public pressure the governments around
    the world have to step in and pass regulations that set up a
    minimum set of requirements an automobile has to meet to be deemed
    "road worthy". This includes crash testing as well as the
    inclusion of safety equipment on all models. The requirement are
    not constant and change to meet the expectations and demands of
    the public and lawmakers.

    The onus is not only on the automotive industry itself but also on
    the users. Most countries require that all automobiles undergo
    regular inspection and maintain an up to date "Warrant of
    Fitness".

    In the same way, if you want a secure IT infrastructure, eventually
    the software design, implementation and each deployment will have
    to undergo the same type of regulation and scrutiny.

    Unix,Linux,BSD and especially OpenBSD are currently far superior
    in terms of security, both in closing the vulnerabilities in
    applications before they have the chance to be widely exploited
    and implementing more secure access subsystems ( SELinux/LSM etc
    ).

    However, should the Unix, open source and free licensed
    communities and vendors be taking a more active approach,
    including lobbying government, to
    1) set up a minimum set of expectations, in the design and
       implementation of internet "accessing" software ; and
    2) ensure that all deployments are more securely implemented ;
       and/or
    3) remove inherently unsecure products from the marketplace,

    IMO the above three are preferable to all software vendors,
    including Microsoft, than attempts to allow liability lawsuits
    against vendors for deployments which the vendors do not
    necessarily have any control over.

    David Mohring - Any constructive comments welcome.



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