Re: core dump with openssh 3.8 on HP11 with PAM
From: Darren Tucker (dtucker_at_dodgy.net.au)
Date: 03/13/04
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:45:31 +0000 (UTC)
In article <a9042b00.0403121157.76270462@posting.google.com>,
Dan Oviatt <oviattd@mont.disa.mil> wrote:
>> http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808
>
>Well thats what I get for not checking Bugzilla first.......
>
>Forgive my HP ignorance, but the way I understand it, using the
>"keyboard-interactive" method means you are letting PAM do the
>authentication. Where if you leave PasswordAuthentication set to yes,
>then you are kind of bypassing PAM. Is that why keyboard-interactive
>is the "preferred" method for use with PAM?
Yes. You can authenticate with password (ie the contents of /etc/passwd
and/or /etc/shadow) and still have the PAM account and session modules
run, but if you want to actually authenticate via PAM with 3.7p1 and up,
you need to use keyboard-interactive.
>The whole reason why I
>even ask is that our security documentation stipulates that they want
>ChallengeResponseAuthentication set to no, which shuts off
>keyboard-interactive authentications. Well if you do that and have
>PasswordAuthentication also set to no, then the user cant even login
>because all the authentications have been shut off (we dont use public
>key). Is there any valid (security) reason to say
>ChallengeResponseAuthentication must be set to no, or are the security
>people worrying about something that no longer applies to the current
>versions of OpenSSH?
They're probably referring to this:
http://www.openssh.com/txt/preauth.adv
In general, disabling stuff you don't need is good policy, but for PAM
you now need ChallengeResponseAuthentication enabled.
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