Re: core dump with openssh 3.8 on HP11 with PAM

From: Darren Tucker (dtucker_at_dodgy.net.au)
Date: 03/13/04

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    In article <a9042b00.0403121157.76270462@posting.google.com>,
    Dan Oviatt <oviattd@mont.disa.mil> wrote:
    >> http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808
    >
    >Well thats what I get for not checking Bugzilla first.......
    >
    >Forgive my HP ignorance, but the way I understand it, using the
    >"keyboard-interactive" method means you are letting PAM do the
    >authentication. Where if you leave PasswordAuthentication set to yes,
    >then you are kind of bypassing PAM. Is that why keyboard-interactive
    >is the "preferred" method for use with PAM?

    Yes. You can authenticate with password (ie the contents of /etc/passwd
    and/or /etc/shadow) and still have the PAM account and session modules
    run, but if you want to actually authenticate via PAM with 3.7p1 and up,
    you need to use keyboard-interactive.

    >The whole reason why I
    >even ask is that our security documentation stipulates that they want
    >ChallengeResponseAuthentication set to no, which shuts off
    >keyboard-interactive authentications. Well if you do that and have
    >PasswordAuthentication also set to no, then the user cant even login
    >because all the authentications have been shut off (we dont use public
    >key). Is there any valid (security) reason to say
    >ChallengeResponseAuthentication must be set to no, or are the security
    >people worrying about something that no longer applies to the current
    >versions of OpenSSH?

    They're probably referring to this:
    http://www.openssh.com/txt/preauth.adv

    In general, disabling stuff you don't need is good policy, but for PAM
    you now need ChallengeResponseAuthentication enabled.

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    Darren Tucker (dtucker at zip.com.au)
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