Re: Proposed enhancement to scp

From: Dimitri Maziuk (dima_at_127.0.0.1)
Date: 02/27/04 

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 01:04:17 +0000 (UTC)

Steve Turner sez:
> Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
>
>> Steve Turner sez:
>>
>> ... Where would GNU software be today if
>>
>>>they had decided that making improvements on the original code was a bad
>>>idea?
>>
>>
>> Exactly where it is now -- in "Not Unix" land.
>
> I think you're wrong;

Which part: "Not Unix"? That's what NU in GNU stands for, you know.

"Improvements over rcp"? OpenSSH website says right on the front
page: "... scp which replaces rcp ..." Which makes the argument
"scp won't do it if rcp does not" perfectly valid.

>> FYI, one of the first lines in openssh license reads "there is no
>> GNU code here". Just letting you know.
>
> Ok, but I don't really see how that relates to the discussion. I only
> used GNU as an example of "Continuous improvement helps lead to software
> that people actually continue to use".

Also known as "featuritis", or "bloat".

Want to know what GNU "enhancements" do IRL? Run "hostname -s"
as root on a Solaris box. Type "killall" without parameters on
IRIX or Solaris (also as root). Hell, most of GNU software won't
even compile on unix (Is Not GNU) with C (Not Gunk) compiler.
Thanks to the GNU "enhancements".
Hates it, we doesss.

Dima (while we're at it, OpenSSH is one of the very few free software
      projects that's actually portable. Kudos to OpenSSH folks.) 

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