Re: difference between SSL, SSH and VPN

From: Eric Hanchrow (offby1_at_blarg.net)
Date: 05/19/03

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    >>>>> "Joss" == Joss <joss@pleasereplytogroup.com> writes:

        Joss> so, why would you use SSH over VPN, or vice versa?

    Warning: pure uninformed speculation follows.

    VPN over SSH, if it were possible (which I don't know) would seem to
    be quite useful since VPN is transparent. Thus I could start up some
    vpn-over-ssh application, which would run in the background, and my
    computer would suddenly appear to have a second network adapter; and
    traffic over that adapter would be automatically encrypted. So any
    program that uses the network -- even if it doesn't use TCP -- would
    get encryption for free when it communicates over that adapter.

    This is in contrast to using SSH alone, in which case I can only use
    programs that communicate via TCP, and even then I must tell SSH to
    forward ports, which may not be possible if I'm not root; and I might
    have to tell the program to use some port other than the one it
    expects to use, which might not be possible.

    SSH over VPN doesn't sound *inherently* useful, but I could imagine
    using it anyway, like this:

    1) I use a standard VPN system to connect to my work network from
       home. I use VPN because that's the only remote access method which
       my employer has provided.

    2) Now I want to interact with machine `foo' on my work network. As
       it happens, the only way to interact with that machine is via SSH,
       just because that's how that machine's administrator has configured
       it. So I have to run an SSH client to talk to that machine. My
       interaction with that machine is thus getting encrypted twice --
       once by SSH, once again by VPN. This feels like a waste of CPU
       cycles, but I don't know of any way around it.

    -- 
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    sentence with barrels.
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