Re: HP pavilion preloaded spyware is sticky...

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

warf wrote:


Why do you lock your house if you have nothing to hide?


To comply with the demands of my assurance to receive protection against
break-in. Now, that bad comparison was easy to debunk.


Why do you care if the postman reads your mail?


He doesn't. However, he may read postcards and I must respect that
possibility. Now, as we are at bad comparison, a mail covert would be the
analogon to encryption.


Why do you care if I have your tax, banking, medical history, employment history, genetic profile, familial history, political bent, magazine subscription history, insurance profile, educational records, criminal records...hell why not just let have access to your thoughts when the technology matures.


Actually that's a good idea. With various security protocols and
encryption, one can create very good privacy management systems that
provide very limited and well-defined views on the dataset.


Do I really have to post 'my' reasons for not wanting to watch a steady stream of data leaving my computer with unknown destinations and with purposeful obfuscation?


No. But then, you should be consequent to not make such a thing possible in
first place.

Hence: my initial post: How do I stop my HP laptop from datamining me?

What can I take home from this juncture of meandering posings [not 'posTings]. I do appreciate the real help though, and the rest is still entertaining and even thought provoking.

I think even 'experts' are hard pressed to know when subtrifuge is happening...because by definition if they were aware of it it would be overt...so you wait until somebody brags of the exploit OR you find out as a consequence of some malicious use of your data.
This applies to physical scamming as well...it is all predicated on the myth that one can ascertain when one is being scammed and can take steps to alleviate it----the amygdala is the problem, it can allow us to feel secure if the sensory input is parsed in a manner leading to trust, or devoid of suspicion.

So, for anybody that has not had the misfortune of saying " she would never cheat on me" at the precise moment she was..or___________ [your story]
Is my point clear? I am seeking the knowledge so many of you purport to have, but i gather Hubris is but a packet away.

Now for some pragmatic thought....I would like to think 'WE' could prevent datamining by encrypting our data,,,,but how can we be sure we are not fooled at the kernel level?

I know for a fact many chemical 'discoveries' were data artifacts that the operator could not imagine were not as displayed on the CRT. The more complex the system the easier it is to obfuscate the nefarious.
The larger the city the easier to hide...etc.

What now....give up, delude myself like 'perhaps' some of you are?

It ain;t looking promising and even though "predictions are hard, especially when they are about the future" {Y.Berra} I predict you will all be the victim of some form of malicious act on your system simply by the shear weight of ingenuity if for no other reason.

Someone else, 'Cobalt' something or other, piqued my interest in a backhanded way when he said the secure WWW could never be attained because it would require [i paraphrase] vendor locked hardware denied the ability for user mods....Isn't that much like we already have for other forms of communication or data delivery? I know the biggest bitch then was "I can't make my CD player connect to my dial phone or toilet". But then nobody was really cogent of the problems endless user modifiable compatibility would bring. " carefully what you wish for.
QED.
WARf
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