Re: Spyware and Adware affect every internet user

Fuzzy Logic wrote:

Win2k? This is 2006. Consider either Server 2003 or XP Pro.
Why? Win2K is still supported.

So is Windows 98 but neither are hardly considered current.

Windows 98 is DOS-based and has no privilege separation, I don't
consider that usable for any network-connected scenario.

So far, Win2K still is a current system and IE6SP1 is its current level
of IE. Denote that it's still getting patched.

Well what you think happens and what we are seeing (perfectly fine
rendered pages with the occasional ad not being displayed). Generally
it looks identical to a page rendered without the additional
protection.

Ah, I thought you'd be serious about the filtering. So far that means
you didn't employ sufficient workarounds.

Well, no thanks, using a real webbrowser like Mozilla is a far
better approach, especially as it doesn't depend on someone else
protecting you.

What's good for you may not be for me...is that so hard to
understand? And off course you thorougly vetted all your browser
plugins/helpers (can you say greasemonkey, quicktime, acrobat,
shockwave, etc....all of which have had exploits at some point that
allowed remote execution of code).

GreaseMonkey had a default configuration issue. Never applied to me.
The rest was disabled by default, for good reason.

BTW, there are no vulnerabilities currently known, in strict contrast to IE.

Just one link...is that too much to ask when you claim all web
sites are malicious?
http://click.adbrite.com?

OK what's supposed to happen? Loads fine and amazingly nothing
happened!? Took me to http://www.adbrite.com/

Argh... you just want to annoy me, hein? / is uninteresting, take a look
at the script it serves.

Browser didn't crash, page displays, I can still surf, no spyware, no
adware, no trojans, no rootkits, no homepage hijack?!

I'm not aware of Adbrite employing a sufficient recent exploit. But you
should just wait some time...

Eh... no. Maybe you just didn't understand what security means,
especially in terms of reliability. I don't want my webbrowser to
potentially blow up just when clicking a link, whether or not
someone actually exploits that.

Nobody does. And amazingly it rarely happens. Certainly no more
frequently than any other application.

You must be kidding... how many hundred thousands of machines have been
hijacked at the latest IE exploit wave?

I won't deny there is some nasty stuff out there but it's way
overblown and easy to avoid.
The "easy to avoid" part has been disproven.

Not that I've seen.

You really don't read news?

There MAY be 50+ vulnerabilities but certainly no where near that
many are considered 'critical' by anyone except maybe you.

Not all of them a critical, but a lot. BTW, the consideration is taken
upon impact and a non-interactive execution of remote code certainly is
critical.

Why am I somehow responsible for the vulnerabilities in IE? I didn't
write it. I simply use it

You're using it for something it was never designed for.

and like every other product we use it has risks associated with it.

And the risk for IE is certainly unacceptable, especially because safe
and far better alternatives exist.

I have 600 users I support that have been properly trained and
amazingly we have not succumbed to a single one of these ubiquitous
vulnerabilities because the reality is that the major threats have
been addressed

You're not even able to differ an ActiveX Rich Platform Client that has
been marketed as a webbrowser from a real webbrowser, but claim to
recognize even a good hidden thread long before it hits you in the face?

and any malicious site (by my definition) is taken
down so fast that the chance of becoming a victim are extremely low.

Now that's a fiction, too.
.

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