Re: Ok to let all ICMP traffic through firewall?

From: Imhotep (Imhotep_at_nospam.net)
Date: 09/23/05


Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:23:16 -0400

Leythos wrote:

> In article <433331d9$0$32652$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
> abuse@dopiaza.cabal.org.uk says...
>> Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote:
>> > My question is Should a firewall let all ICMP traffic through
>> > because there is no real risk if they do?
>>
>> No, because some ICMP messages aren't useful. However blocking all
>> ICMP is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and will cause more
>> bother than not blocking anything.
>>
>> I would suggest allowing ICMP Echo and Echo Reply (so ping works),
>> Destination Unreachable (which includes "fragmentation required",
>> essential for PMTUD to work) and Time Exceeded (so traceroute works.)
>> Everything else looks to be fair game to drop.
>>
>> While I'm suggesting firewall rules, can people also not silently drop
>> SYNs to port 113 please? All sorts of servers try RFC1413 lookups and
>> stall while waiting for a response. The firewall user is usually the
>> first to complain that it's taking ages to connect to a certain remote
>> server.
>
> There is NO BOTHER - you set the rules and then let them work. You don't
> need to allow PING, in fact why the heck would you want to allow PING,
> it's not like it's a valid test that your network is alive - we've got
> tons of commercial networks that block PING and none of the users even
> notice.
>
> Allowing anything inbound, even to the firewall, that doesn't
> specifically need to be let in is a bad move.
>
> Allowing in minimal traffic that "might" not be a threat is like
> trusting Windows Firewall with File/Printer sharing enabled on a
> computer directly connected to the Internet with all of your financial
> data stored on it in a text file that is name "ALL MY FINANCIAL
> DATA.TXT" sitting in the root.
>

LOL...

Imhotep



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