Re: certification

From: Leythos (void_at_nowhere.lan)
Date: 08/18/05 

Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:09:52 GMT

In article <1124380915.619187.175550@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
a_j_moran@yahoo.co.uk says...
>
> Leythos schrieb:
>
> > In article <de29eo$irr$1@bolt.sonic.net>, claudel@bolt.sonic.net says...
> > > OTOH, if you do *not* have the professional exposure and feel the need
> > > to attend a "boot camp" or cram course of some sort than it can be
> > > quite expensive. In this case you also may not have the practical
> > > experience to maximize the benefit of the certification...
>
> Yeah I know what you mean. for me its half about doing something to
> motivate me to learn about other stuff (crypto, protocols, pki etc are
> all my daily bread but stuff in some of the other domains doesn't
> really fall into my remit) and partly to shore up my cv. I'm really
> not sure it matters that much if you really have the experience - that
> said I have seen it cited as a requirement for some jobs.
>
> I guess I would rather learn it myself than attend courses..

I think certification is a good thing, in many cases it proves that you
have some knowledge of the subject, but, if the test is easy to pass (as
the Microsoft Certification one are), they become meaningless and
something that people don't want to see when they interview or read a
resume. What I look for is people that have a clear and unfaltering
history in the area we need skills - many times it's easy to see a
fluffed resume. What really filters out the good ones from the book
types is the internal testing we do - about 95% of all people taking our
internal test fail. What's funny is when we do a "lets see how you
think" type question - some people try and answer them, some say what
does this have to do with the job (we never hire those), others don't
answer the question at all (and we don't hire them either). 

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