Re: Can dialer viruses turn on the computer?

From: Unruh (unruh-spam_at_physics.ubc.ca)
Date: 03/26/05

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    Date: 26 Mar 2005 22:07:31 GMT
    
    

    "Norman L. DeForest" <af380@chebucto.ns.ca> writes:

    >On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, David H. Lipman wrote:
    >> From: "Cautious Nerd" <Cautious@Nerds.com>
    >>
    >> | Our home phone service provider advised a friend to always disconnect
    >> | the phone line from the PC. The friend was apparently told that if one gets a
    >> | dialer virus/trojan, it can act even with the computer turned off. I
    >> | have a hard time seeing this. Is this just a case of
    >> | "miscommunafication"?

    Sounds like it. However, the next time he turns it on, the virus could
    immediately dial out.

    >> A "magic Packet" can be sent to the Network Interface Card (not Dial-Up) and a computer can
    >> be powered-up. This can be prevented by using a Cable/DSL Router on a Broadband Internet
    >> connection.

    Depends. Some computers have a "wake on ..." like wake on lan. feature,
    which can turn them on. But that has to come from outside.
    Note that the Cable/Router is precisely attached to the lan and thus could
    be used to turn it on. I do not know of any systems which have a "wake on
    modem" feature, not least because I do not know of motherboards which have
    modems built in.

    >>
    >> If a PC is infected with a Trojan or Virus and it is powered off, the Trojan or virus is
    >> rendered inert and can not do anything until the PC angain powered-up.

    >Can't some of the newer PCs with hardware power-management built-in be
    >programmed to turn themselves on at a specific time? The real-time clock

    I have not seen that. Maybe there are.

    >can use its alarm feature to signal the power-management hardware to turn
    >on the computer. And a trojan or virus sould easily set that alarm.


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