Re: Back doors

From: Michael J. Pelletier (mjpelletier_at_mjpelletier.com)
Date: 01/05/05 

Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:59:17 -0800

Nothing personal but your both nuts...

David Dalton wrote:

> On 4 Jan 2005 21:37:00 GMT, roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter
> Roberson) wrote:
>
>>In article <od1mt01ang0ru9amv40mj1qbsrj29cvcqg@4ax.com>,
>>David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:
>>:Do all firewalls have a back door which is provided to
>>:secret service and law enforcement authorities?
>>
>>No. If you examine the Lawful Intercept RFC,
>>http://cryptome.org/cisco-vile.txt
>>then you will see that the intercept has to occur further down the
>>route than the customer equipment, so that the customer is unable
>>to detect the monitoring.
>>
>>So what you are back to is that old chestnut about whether
>>3DES, AES, et al. contain backdoors. The consistant word on those is
>>"None that anyone has been able to identify from the source or from
>>several years of sophisticated examination."
>>
>>
>>:If so, what is there to stop a member of such
>>:agencies who is in a cult to pass the back door
>>:info on to other members of his or her cult.
>>:(e.g. cultish subsets of Born Again Christianity)
>>
>>Reminds me of the old days when people were talking about Clipper
>>and Mandatory Key Escrow.
>
> I also discuss the subject in the "Firewall for win95?" thread
> where I point out that if cultish subsets of Born Again
> Chrsitianity have access to such back doors they should
> be investigated promptly since a subset of such cultish
> subsets of Born Again Christianity wish to bring about the
> end of the world via nulclear holocaust. I expect that
> those knowing of the existence of such back doors would
> be quick to poo poo such existence and may even be
> in such cultish subsets of Born Again Christianity themselves.
> But perhaps you are right, Walter, though cheap or free
> firewalls are more likely to have such programmed in
> back doors or otherwise have entry loopholes than
> expensive ones, I bet.
>
> This did not go to alt.conspiracy . :-)
>
> David
> http://www.nfld.com/~dalton