Re: **Secure** Ftp server

From: Mike (honey_at_michaelmoyse.co.uk)
Date: 07/27/04

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    phn@icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:

    > Mike <honey@michaelmoyse.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    >>phn@icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >
    > % stuff removed to focus on one question %%
    >
    >
    >>>True. But i Can read, cert is one place to read about windows broken
    >>>security, securityfocus another.
    >
    >
    >>http://www.openbsd.org/security.html Is fun to read as well. Lets face
    >>it, all operating systems have vulnerabilities and the biggest one is
    >>the guy on the keyboard and his knowledge of security and the O/S he is
    >>using. Then we are back on the TCO argument again.
    >
    >
    > The refenrence to openbsd is interesting. There has not (to my knowledge)
    > been a single break-in in an openbsd running default installation.
    But you must agree that the possibility exists and even more so in the
    hands of a novice user? Out of the box I'm sure it is more secure than
    any MS O/S but correctly configured and protected MS O/S? I doubt you
    could get a cigarette paper between them.

    > There has been applications ( which you have to start first) that had
    No different to any other OS on the planet then.

    > holes, there has been a number of problems with local stuff ( where
    > one must create a running process first in order to exploit).
    Again no different to any other OS on the planet.

    > The application we are discussing, a simple ftp server would
    > not be part of any of these problems. In fact one could use
    > a 2.2 release ( 8 years old) and still be safe.
    So no way you could misconfigure it to allow access to your entire file
    system then??

    > Compare that to the track record of MS. Then compare the price
    > difference, easiness of install and amount of work needed to
    > keep the machine running.
    Sure there are problems with MS O/S and they are all well documented and
    easily fixed by any good admin.

    > How many many cancelled ms-licenses is needed to hire one good admin ?
    A huge number actually (Ignoring the fact that one can't 'cancel' a
    license and get your money back so the point is moot) and don't forget,
    an MS license is a one-off cost but an admin will cost you every day.

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