Re: Why does Windows allow Worms?

From: Leythos (void_at_nowhere.com)
Date: 05/10/04


Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:36:12 GMT

In article <Pine.BSI.4.58.0405091902220.25139@malasada.lava.net>,
jfenn@lava.net says...
> The idea I am pushing
> is to help the Govt itself rid itself of the huge problem with
> virus attacks every couple of years.

The OS in ROM won't help - I've installed secure networks across the
country and not one of them has ever been compromised. It's all about
proper setup, monitoring, and being proactive. Windows is not any more
of a problem to secure than any other OS, you just have to know how. The
government has it's own issues which make securing the OS a problem.

If all you wanted to protect was the kernel then a ROM might do, but
there are about 1gb of apps that are vulnerable outside the kernel that
cause most of the problem for people - the OS, at least as I think you
are referring to it, is more than just the kernel.

I can't see users purchasing MS Office on ROM Chip (no matter how easy
the package is to install) and then purchasing/returning to a store for
updates every couple months.

If you want to look at what can be done to stop the spread of most of
the Worms, get on the ISP's about enabling the NAT function on their
home users installed cable/dsl modem - with NAT on the users cable/dsl
modem the worms wont ever make it to the users PC to start the spread.

In the 70's I owned a HP computing device, it had BASIC in a ROM,
extended math functions in ROM, etc... you could install up to 3 or 4
ROM cartridges in the unit at a time. On my workstation at my desk I
have about 30 apps installed, totalling about 45GB of apps and some of
their data. There is just no way that you're going to get that on
PROM/ROM and make users accept it.

You're wrong about Virus's - the machines will still suffer, even ROM OS
based ones, since I virus would just infect MS Word, or some other app
that's on the internal Drive and spread through that means. The only
real way you could prevent the problem is to remove the hard drive so
that there is nothing that can be changed on the system - but then it's
just a big calculator at that point.

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