Re: Spyware which tracks keystrokes?

From: jealous xmp (jealousxmp_at_aol.commonplace)
Date: 03/23/04

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    Date: 23 Mar 2004 19:35:12 GMT
    
    

    >Presumeably that would include >passwords
    >too!

    That's one of the main reasons to use one.

    >Someone would have to get this software >onto your machine in the
    >first place, but that's not difficult if they have physical access to
    >it

    Internet Explorer exploit. AIM exploit. Social engineering. Several ways to
    get the software on there.

    >- and (apparently) it's undetectable - if >you look in your
    >files/programs list you won't find it.

    Some keyloggers and trojans hide from antivirus and can circumvent software
    firewalls. Many hardware firewalls (in small office / home office) allow
    relatively unfettered outbound access so the trojan can use email, ftp, or a
    reverse connect.

    > does anyone know how you might
    >(a) prevent this being put on the first >place,

    Get a real trojan detector like TDS 3, or the easier to use Tauscan or
    TrojanHunter. They can hide from AV so you could boot in safe mode (maybe?) or
    mount the disc from another drive.

    There is also a grey area with trojans. Stuff like DameWare will not generally
    be detected because it's a "legitimate" commercial product. Yet Back Orifice
    will be detected cause it's more "malicious." Kind of silly and really just a
    matter of semantics. Even legitimate products can have a stealthy install and
    be relatively hidden from the desktop user.

    Also new, rare, or custom modified loggers won't be detected by AV.

    >and (b)detect it if
    >it's already there?

    At a minimum use a software firewall and antivirus. Everything fully patched
    and updated. If you are worried about AIM exploits, use GAIM instead. Use
    Mozilla to avoid Internet Explorer exploits. Each program has its own issues
    of course, but some are more targetted by attackers.

    >I've now been totally >put off setting up an
    >internet bank account!

    Michael


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