Re: Looking for quantifiable data on the effects of disasters on business (mostly financial services) for 2003/2004

From: Novice (6tc1_at_qlink.queensu.ca)
Date: 03/11/04 

Date: 11 Mar 2004 05:27:55 -0800

Ford Prefect <restaurant@end.universe> wrote in message news:<40501B91.4000203@end.universe>...
> Novice wrote:
> > I'm doing some research on the cost of things like:
> > - viruses
> > - unavailability
> > - black outs,
> > - identity theft
> >
> > and the subsequent lost revenue - whether it be from:
> > - regulatory costs associated with loss of productivity
> > - lost business
> > - etc
> >
> > So very quantifiable data from 2002 and 2003 (if I'm lucky some data
> > from 2004).
>
> Learn to use a search engine... all the information is out there if
> you stop and think for a nanosecond...

Belittling comments are never useful - I realize this will simply
dissolve into a you're wrong because... and you're wrong because...
discussion, but it is hard to let statements like this go unanswered.

>
> > Basically this will all amount to a justification of Disaster Recovery
> > Plans.
>
> That's not how you justify a disaster recovery plan. A DR plan is an
> immediate response to a situation only. Learn something about risk
> assessment and risk analysis before you venture into this field...

This is a school assignment - this IS what I'm learning about - I need
some statistics to justify the use of a DRP otherwise the enormous
cost that goes into a DRP will not be justified. Perhaps you should
look at two things:
1. How expensive DRP's can be
2. The fact that they will NOT go forward unless upper management
gives the go ahead

So being able to justify them is important and one way to do that is
to illustrate how much can be lost if they are not in place.

>
> > I would appreciate any references people could give me to quantifiable
> > data of this sort - my budget is pretty limited - no surprise - but
> > feel free to offer suggestions.
>
> Like I said, learn how to do an internet search... its all out there
> if you stop and think about what keywords to use...

Again belittling remarks add nothing to a discussion. If you truly
didn't think I knew how to use a search engine you would offer useful
advice. I do know how to use them and I have found some useful facts.
 However, I'm looking for a verifiable source (i.e. not some random
person's opinion who has posted a website)... just because you find a
fact on the internet doesn't make it true. Perhaps you should learn
about why all research can't be done with google.

>
> >> I've managed to find a reference to the Disaster Recovery Journal and
> > am trying to get a copy of it in Toronto, Ontario, Canada - does
> > anyone know how I could get a copy relatively soon - for example is it
> > likely that the University of Toronto will have a copy?
>
> Gee, da ya think that a library might have it? If you need to ask on
> a newsgroup if the U of T library might have something, then you
> probably won't be let into the place to begin with... (and before any
> of you decide to jump down my throat for that comment, access to the U
> of T libraries are usually restricted to students, faculty and
> alumni... the general public is not usually permitted access).

Again belittling remarks - I am a student at Queen's University (check
my e-mail address) - I happen to in Toronto for the week and was going
to stop by their library, but I was curious if anyone knew if that
journal was there. Please, if you don't know the answer to a
question, don't try to address it.

>
> ...ever think of trying the pubic library?

U of T is a more comprehensive library and yes I had thought of that -
but thanks for phrasing it in that way.

>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Novice

I realize I can't stop you from posting again - but feel free to
insult my intelligence some more with information that doesn't pertain
to my original post.

By the way, do you always respond in this manner when someone is
seeking information? I recognize I'm new to this area - hence my need
for research. If you thought that I was going in the wrong area for
my research material please state that - don't just insult me.

Novice

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