Re: Hiding originating IP when posting through CLOSED news servers

From: Frank Slootweg (this_at_ddress.is.invalid)
Date: 02/23/04 

Date: 23 Feb 2004 12:55:26 GMT

Mike <duab@privacy.net> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Mike <duab@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>> Forged usenet posts are an absolute doddle, but as you say, the
>>> true origins of such are also provable. And quite trivially so,
>>> actually.
>>
>> Often *not* "quite trivially so, actually.".
>
> I admit I made a mistake there.. WIMTS is that it's trivially
> easy to prove that a forged post was indeed forged.

  *If* you have a (full) copy of the original. That is why I advised to
keep copies of 'important' stuff.

> Thanks for
> pointing out my error.
>
>> May I suggest you have another look at your own Newsgroups line. If
>>you, apparently, think that the people in these groups do not know more
>>about these topics than you do, then why do you post questions here?
>
> I do think there are people in this (and other) groups that know
> more about this (and many other things) than I do. However, this
> seemed like the right place to ask my original question.
>
>>> So, for future reference, to what lengths must I go to ask *my*
>>> real question where others will believe it is simply that.
>>
>> Well, you could start by responding constructively to people's
>>responses, instead of assuming they misunderstand you, are stupid, etc..
>
> How many times must I assure someone that "I do not seek
> anonymity" in respect of this enquiry, before I am to be
> believed? How more contructive in my comments can I possibly be?
>
>> Take for example your original (i.e. NNTP-Posting-Host) question. That
>>could have been resolved in a few responses if you had given useable
>>feedback, instead of just repeating the same stuff over and over again,
>>not responding to specific questions, etc..
>
> I did give useable feedback. I stated quite categorically that my
> only wish was to hide my IP from the general usenet public. Does
> that fact that I have posted via Individual.NET ever since they
> kindly offered this facility, prove that I was and am genuine?

  Well, I think you should have been quicker in indicating which
solutions were not acceptable and why. Now we had to 'drag' it out of
you and (often) got flamed in the process. While I didn't count them, I
think you got into 'fights' with the majority of the respondents. I
think that indicates something. Of course this is all a matter of
opinion. YMMV and probably YMWV.

> Don't blame me if others start offering advice in areas outside
> of my original question based on their own petty assumptions. Nor
> is it my fault that some dickhead decided to take exception to my
> use of XNA thereby starting this idiotic sub-thread.

  Well, you didn't really stop the drift in its tracks, did you?

>>>> In the meantime, may I suggest that you keep (full) copies of all the
>>>>(important) articles which you post. Preferable copies from more than
>>>>one (News) server.
>>>
>>> It's really not that serious; if it was, I wouldn't post at all.
>>
>> We also understand *that*, but it apparently is somewhat "serious",
>>otherwise you wouldn't get your knickers in a knot about it.
>
> It's *not* serious at all; I have never had, nor do I expect any
> problems due to my usenet posts. I just don't want the ones
> originating with me, archived on bloody google. Why can't you
> just accept that?

  I can accept that. I just don't see what purpose it serves,
considering you (now) *know* that other archives will carry your
postings, people who are out to get you can get your postings into
Google (Groups), etc..