Re: Hiding originating IP when posting through CLOSED news servers

From: Frank Slootweg (this_at_ddress.is.invalid)
Date: 02/09/04 

Date: 09 Feb 2004 14:02:04 GMT

Mike <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>, wrote:
>
>>Mike <duab@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>>[deleted]
>>> I have no desire to see my posts archived, that is my right (to
>>> privacy) and my choice. I could argue that others' are selfish to
>>> deny me my privacy in quoted replies that are archived, but I
>>> accept *their* choice.
>>
>> You may *want* that your postings are not archived, but you have no
>>such *right*. At the moment you post, you have given up the right to
>>privacy (as far as your posting and its content are concerned).
>
> Granted that Im not sure of the precise argument here, but I am
> aware of certain issues regarding copyright and the XNA header
> being seen as a valid request. I read an article on this a few
> years ago and my understanding is that people do in fact have
> rights in this area.

  It may be a "valid" request, but that is just that, a request. Nobody
is oblidged to honor it. XNA has no official status, which should be
clear from the "X" part. I think that anyone will have a very hard time
trying to get a copyright claim on a Usenet article acknowledged.

>> I.e. there is no obligation whatsoever to honor your "X-No-Archive:
>>yes" *request*. In fact, Google (Groups) is probably about the only
>>'archive' that *does* honor it.
>
> The only other "archive" as such that I'm aware of is Remark
> which is no longer free anyway. Other so called "archives" are
> just servers with a longer retention than most.

  There *are* other archives (i.e. not "just servers ..."). Just not
complete (i.e. all Big Eight text groups) ones and not as well known as
Google Groups. 'Recently' there was some discussion somewhere (I can
proably find it again if 'needed') where someone insisted that, because
of his use of XNA, his postings could not be found in (publicly
accessible) archives. I proved him wrong.

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