Re: Social Engineering

From: Ben Measures (saint_abroadremove_at_removehotmail.com)
Date: 01/30/04 

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:52:51 +0000

Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <WQkSb.1232$Q63.1212@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Ben Measures <saint_abroadremove@removehotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Angela Kahealani <angela@kahealani.com> wrote in
>>>news:101dfpebjjkm1c3@corp.supernews.com:
>>>Simply refusing to use Outlook Express would make the computer world 95%
>>>safer. Forget Windows - Windows is fine without OE and IE as gaping
>>>security breeches, open to allow exploiters to harm your system.
>>
>>There are some viruses that can infect your computer without using OE or
>>IE. In fact, those are the viruses that have been most sucessful.
>
>
> There may be some, but the most problems in the past few years have
> indeed come from email worms that depend on OE. Maybe 95% is
> overstating it, but I'd guess it's at least 75%.
>

I regret saying
> In fact, those are the viruses that have been most sucessful.
it was wrong. Please allow me to retract it :D

However the rest of my post still holds true. I was trying to point out
that Windows isn't "fine" without OE and IE. There are other holes in
the OS, holes that many viruses have used in the past. If IE and OE
weren't so good as "computer access gateways", then those holes would
become much more apparent. 

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