Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse

From: Leythos (void_at_nowhere.com)
Date: 12/08/03


Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:17:57 GMT

In article <barmar-ACF187.23550307122003@netnews.attbi.com>,
barmar@alum.mit.edu says...
> I know many ISPs have policies against servers, but it has always seemed
> like an arbitrary, fascist policy to most of us. We're buying
> bandwidth, why should the ISP care what we're doing with the bits?

For the same reason that dial-up ISP's impose a hours limit on monthly
connections - they built their network with the intent that a certain
number of users would utilize a certain amount of data in/out per month.

When they started finding people running servers on their residential
networks they found that it exceeded their expectations for bandwidth
and put measures in place for curb it. Without this control you would
not be able to get the 3mbps/1mbps that you get with cable now - your
network would be saturated.

There is a technical reason for it too - there are many people on home
networks that install 'server' applications (like SMTP, etc...) that
don't know how to secure them - these systems become points for extra
traffic that the ISP didn't count on, and they decrease the available
pipe for all of us.

I've been doing this since the late 70's, moved to RR cable more than 5
years ago, the restrictions on use have been around for as long as I can
remember. Even a dial-up provider in my town, when it first started, was
offering unlimited on-line, but after 1 year had to switch to 300 hours
per month to curb the people that maintained a connection 24/7.

-- 
--
spamfree999@rrohio.com
(Remove 999 to reply to me)


Relevant Pages

  • Re: Linux router between LANs
    ... when setting up their local network. ... problem is when the user randomly chooses an RFC1918 address that the ISP ... >mail servers, ... >pass through my home network via VPN and then connect to my ISPs SMTP ...
    (comp.os.linux.networking)
  • Re: prevent respond to port scanner
    ... > know your network then you can say where all the various forms of ICMP ... According my ISP, they own me, and I have agreed to it. ... >>> open relays, proxies and news servers... ... You have good internet, and we have untimed local phone calls. ...
    (comp.os.linux.security)
  • Re: Unable to send email
    ... your ISP will only let you send mail when dialled into their servers. ... > need the smtp server address of your cellphone's network before you'll be ...
    (microsoft.public.pocketpc)
  • Re: Setting up VPN
    ... > us by our ISP, ... > of the firewall - mail, ... > A handful of our staff want to access the internal network from home to ... > access a couple of file servers. ...
    (comp.os.linux.networking)
  • Re: Dcidag errors
    ... Port blockage between servers ... Other sorts of networking issues (lack of connectivity between the points ... These errors are typically a result of a network connectivity issue of some ... > replicating this nc. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.active_directory)