Re: End of all Open Source.

From: Bill Unruh (unruh_at_string.physics.ubc.ca)
Date: 12/01/03 

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:44:16 +0000 (UTC)

n1pop@hotmail.com writes:

]unruh@string.physics.ubc.ca (Bill Unruh) wrote in message news:<bq5c1v$puo$1@string.physics.ubc.ca>...
]> Sorry, in what sense is "free speech" not a right, if the consitution
]> states tha no law abridging it is allowed?

]There's a difference, to me, between freedom of speech and free
]speech. It's slight, and the two terms have been used interchageably
]by many people.

]I understand free speech to mean the ability to say or the action of
]saying anything one wants, and freedom of speech as the right to and
]responsibility for saying anything one wants without violating anyone
]else's rights.

And the US constitution proetcts the former, not the latter.
As interpreted, certain forms of speech are restricted, but the
decisions of the US Supreme court go way beyond " as long as noone elses
rights are violated".

]> And the supreme court has stated that it is possible for Congress to
]> pass laws which do abridge the freedom of speech, but they must be
]> specific and in answer to an immediate and actual harm. Thus treason
]> laws are valid.

]Accepted. There were few national security secrets two hundred years
]ago that could do the kind of harm they can now.

Sure there were. You have heard of Benedict Arnold haven't you?

]> Flag burning laws are not.

]Flag-burning laws would be against US Code. Traitor-burning laws
]haven't been passed yet.
?? And what do you call the outcome of the Rosenburg trials?

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