Re: Check Point FireWall-1 and CCSA

From: Wayne McGlinn (wayne.mcglinn_at_nospam.didata.com.au)
Date: 10/24/03 

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:41:25 +1000

Sorry mate :) Yes, I do see the point you're making about AI specifically.
The differences are not that great, using the pdf's available on the cd is
sufficient to help gain the neccessary extra knowledge to pass the AI exams.

Wayne

"Beoweolf" <Beoweolf-spam@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:W5_lb.10075$mW.83826871@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Again, not to belabor the point...my issue is not with NG, a known
release.
> If you will review each reply that I have made, I am specifically at issue
> with NG-AI.
>
> Do that same search on NG-AI or 156-210.4 or 156-310.4 .... there are no
> publications specific to the "current" release, upon which the "current"
> test is based.
>
> "Wayne McGlinn" <wayne.mcglinn@nospam.didata.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3f985dac$0$95048$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> > From Checkpoint's website: "Certifications are considered current if
they
> > are for the current major product release or the product release
> immediately
> > prior to the current release. As of July 10th, current certifications
> > include Check Point 2000 and Check Point Next Generation" So, there's no
> > need to update any Certification until a new major release.
> >
http://www.checkpoint.com/services/education/certification/faq/index.html
> > Why none of the publishers have produced manuals? Doing a search on
Amazon
> > shows at least 2 books that deal with CCSA/CCSE NG. One is co-authored
by
> > Valerie Leveille, a long time respected CCSI (Checkpoint Instructor)
> > My knowledge? I've been installing, maintaining and teaching Checkpoint
> > since 3.0a. I'm also on the exam review committee for Checkpoint and was
> on
> > the courseware review committee for NG.
> >
> > Wayne McGlinn
> > CCSI CCSE CCSA MCT MSCE MCNE
> > Brisbane, Oz
> >
> > "Beoweolf" <Beoweolf-spam@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:xLNlb.2881$wj3.992@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> > > You may have greater access to insider information, thanks for sharing
> > your
> > > insight. As noted in the previous post, personal observation and
> > > opinion...speculation(?)... were the basis for several comments.
> > >
> > > Could you address why none of the major certification text publishers,
> > > writers have a produced/provided manuals, text - anything specific to
> > AI-NG?
> > > As a general rule, industry insiders are given access major revisions,
> so
> > > they can provide support, again from observation...that doesn't appear
> to
> > be
> > > the case in this release.
> > >
> > > There are many paths to competence, attending training classes (ATC)
is
> > only
> > > one. Many candidates choose not to attend formal classes due to work
> > > commitments, costs, time management, dearth of competent training
sites
> > with
> > > in a reasonable distance...the list goes on. The recommended "seat"
time
> > > before attempting the exam was not at issue. Bringing it up only
> obscures
> > > the real issue.The question seems to focus on giving the interested
> > > (candidates, third party, service industry) audience sufficient time
to
> > > react to and plan for the change over.
> > >
> > > There is no reason to doubt your point of view, but as much as
previous
> > post
> > > indicated their source was opinion...could you reveal the source of
your
> > > information?
> > >
> > > "Wayne McGlinn" <wayne.mcglinn@nospam.didata.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:3f9758ba$0$95042$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Beoweolf" <Beoweolf-spam@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:y8xlb.1758$yr6.44887068@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > <snip>
> > > > Further, these changes seem to
> > > > > be strongly linked to the revelations of the 2000 security
> conference,
> > > as
> > > > is
> > > > > he development of NG-AI and the new test/certifications so hastily
> > > > > implemented.
> > > >
> > > > The development of NG-AI tests were planned and executed over about
6
> > > > months, certainly not hastily as you suggest. The pool of test
> questions
> > > > from FP3 was supplemented with the new features of AI. As for the
> > > > "revelations of the 2000 security conference" that was to do only
with
> > > 4.1.1
> > > > (Checkpoint 2000), nothing at all with the new code in NG. The cd is
> > > readily
> > > > available from resellers, try, you'll be surprised. On the cd, under
> the
> > > > Docs directory are all the .pdf's needed to setup and administer the
> > > > firewall. The CCSA Certification is aimed at Checkpoint Firewall
> > > > Administrators with 6 months hands-on experience, not someone who
> picks
> > up
> > > a
> > > > book, reads and then passes the exam.
> > > >
> > > > Wayne McGlinn
> > > > Brisbane, Oz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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