Re: THE BEST KEPT SECRETS OF THE COMPUTER UNDERGROUND
From: Don Kelloway (dkelloway_at_commodon.com)
Date: 06/20/03
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:30:44 GMT
"Tracker" <"snailmail(invalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3EF113FE.8BC17412@yahoo.com...
> Remember, you heard this from me first. Installing a backdoor for
> future and continued access to your computer system is simple once a
> computer system is compromised. Here are the "Malicious Hackers Best
> Kept Secrets"!
> They install a Trojan Horse which disables your anti-virus and firewall
> protection; also, they install a second set of their own hidden firewall
> application(s) to protect their Virtual Private Network(s). The point
> that I am trying to make is this, you can check your system for a
> Backdoor, Trojan Horse, Virus, or Worm until your blue in the face, you
> wouldn't find any. The hackers own firewall application(s) can be
> installed on your hard drive in a hidden folder and the only way you
> would know it's there is by going to your Control Panel, Folder Options,
> View, Show All Files and Folders (Windows ME and earlier).
> Windows keeps files and folders hidden by default so you don't make
> changes to their important files. You need to View all Files and
> Folders on your computer to reveal what malicious hackers have installed
> without your knowledge. This will open your eyes and show you all the
> files and software applications now sitting on your hard drive. If you
> want to learn more about computer security, if you're a beginner, one
> avenue is to read-up on configuring your mail and browsing
> applications. Google and Yahoo also have Newsgroups and message boards
> pertaining to the aforementioned. If utilizing a Windows platform, do
> some reading on configuring your Windows Internet Options both Internet
> and Local Settings. Also, spend time learning what applications in
> Windows are running and on what port they run on.
>
> Tracker
> Beef's fiancee
>
> Interested in purchasing my book named "Security Minds versus Malicious
> Minds" visit:
> www.securitymindless2003.com
>
re: Remember, you heard this from me first
None of which you offer is from you first! In fact *EVERYTHING* you
recommend has been taken from other sources and regurgitated and fed
through some sort of translator device. Usually the results are
inaccurate, and/or misleading, and/or make no sense what so ever.
Sometimes the words of wisdom you offer will actually do harm to the
system in question! Maybe it's just me, but IMHO this is not helping
others.
re: Trojan Horse which disables your anti-virus and firewall protection
While it is true that there are some viruses (not trojan horses) that are
capable of deleting core files associated with various anti-virus and
firewall applications. Very few (if any) Trojan Horse applications are
designed to disable anti-virus and/or firewall software. In fact none of
the 'Big Three RCT's' (BO2K, NetBus Pro, or SubSeven) will do this. They
will however provide the ability to the remote administrator (i.e.
'hacker') the ability to make the changes themselves, but only after the
RCT has been installed and is capable of being accessed remotely.
re: they install a second set of their own hidden firewall application(s)
to protect their Virtual Private Network(s)
While it is true that certain applications (AOL, etc) will install and
make use of a VPN connectoid. As well as the fact that there are a few
worms designed to transmit the captured data in an encrypted format (not a
VPN) to a remote system. Very few (if any) hackers install a VPN. Most
'hacking' is done in the clear to facilitate speed, acquire the
information desired, clean up and get out. For a hacker to implement a
VPN would only slow down the process and create unnecessary obstacles.
re: you can check your system for a Backdoor, Trojan Horse, Virus, or Worm
until your blue in the face, you wouldn't find any
If you have the necessary applications, it is very easy to detect all of
the above. Even if you do not have the applications, but have the
experience. It is still possible to detect all of the above.
re: The hackers own firewall application(s) can be installed on your hard
drive in a hidden folder
While it is true that a hacker will often make the folder that they've
installed their app's to hidden as well as implement password protection
and/or restrict access to their covertly installed applications, this is
not the same as installing a firewall. In fact very few (if any) hacker's
would have a need to install a firewall upon a PC that they've already
compromised. Of course it should also be said that finding hidden folders
on your hard drive does NOT indicate that the PC has been compromised
either!
re: If you want to learn more about computer security, if you're a
beginner, one avenue is to read-up on configuring your mail and browsing
applications. Google and Yahoo also have Newsgroups and message boards
pertaining to the aforementioned.
For once you actually offer some valuable advice. Though while using the
'net is a great place to start, often what you may find is information
(see first paragraph of reply) others like yourself offer.
Instead I would suggest acquiring a book on the subject of TCP/IP or
Internet Security. After all it's usually easier to learn something
correctly the first time as opposed to learning something incorrectly,
then have everyone in the world attempt to inform you differently, only to
refute what you're being told. Does this sound familiar?
-- Best regards, Don Kelloway Commodon Communications Visit http://www.commodon.com to learn about the "Threats to Your Security on the Internet".
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