Re: Req: info on IP range popup ad software supposedly called "Extreme Marketing"

From: Todd Knarr (tknarr@silverglass.org)
Date: 12/31/02 

From: Todd Knarr <tknarr@silverglass.org>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:03:43 GMT

In comp.security.misc <v11g1hknlto0cd@corp.supernews.com> Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> wrote:
> ##howling laughter##
> "Should" is the right word. Look at the number of consumer-grade
> Windows installations which are on the Net, with neither a hardware
> nor a software firewall, and known security exploits (which _should_
> have been patched months ago but the owner is clueless about such
> things). Add the handful of older Linux boxen in a similar state.
> Toss in the numerous systems running insecure proxies.

Yup. That's one reason I lean towards a non-technical solution for
that particular aspect of security. Basically, if your system is
cracked and used as a base for attacking others, _you_ are on the
hot-seat. If you can't show that you took proper steps to secure your
system, you get charged as an accomplice. Proper steps, at a minimum,
includes keeping up-to-date on security patches, running a properly-
configured firewall and not activating services that aren't needed or
are known to be vulnerable (and if the system won't work without the
vulnerable services, that's not an excuse).

When someone goes out in a vehicle they can't handle, loses control and
plows into a crowd of people, we don't accept "I didn't know how to drive
that." as an excuse. Why should computers be any different?

</rant> 

-- 
If you are going to kill me then do so. Otherwise, I have considerable
work to do.
                                -- Lennier

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