Re: Why hasn't Symantec addressed nastier Messenger spoofs

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Date: 10/24/02


Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:06:12 GMT

In comp.security.misc <d703a4b1.0210231936.3d127593@posting.google.com> Jim Kutz <jimkutz@earthlink.net> wrote:
> A few [but not many] Internet providers say they use this type of
> messaging to send messages such as "system going down in 5 minutes",
> so they're not encouraging users to disable it. [ The vast majority

Then they shouldn't be using it. This is useful on a LAN, where users
are probably using fileservers and even momentary interruptions can
cause havoc, but an ISP's e-mail servers aren't sub-second-response-time
critical. Basically, there's no reason for anything off the local LAN
to ever be using Windows Messenger to send messages.

ISP pop-up blockers also won't work. They're just HTTP/HTTPS proxies,
and Windows Messenger has nothing to do with HTTP/HTTPs or the Web
browser.

> My third question is, if Symantec does introduce a filter to warn or
> disable concerning these popups, will it also be able to 'let
> through' pop-ups from approved local apps or remote sites?

If you're directly connected to the cable modem, it can. If you're on
a LAN and using a NATting router, there's nothing that distinguishes
a Messenger packet from the outside world from a local one ( this is
UDP, remember, no connection and no response needed so forging the
source address doesn't cause any protocol problems ).

I haven't seen any of these (yet), but since I'm using Samba with the
pop-up scripts disabled I'm not overly worried.

-- 
Don't worry about where to land -- by the time you get to it, it
_will_ be flat.
                                -- concering Orion landing procedures



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