Re: War on Terrorism Highlights FBI's Computer Woes

From: GATES IS SATAN (screwtheborg@yahoo.com)
Date: 07/29/02 

From: screwtheborg@yahoo.com (GATES IS SATAN)
Date: 29 Jul 2002 03:02:39 -0700

I agree with what you're saying but refuse to believe it has sunk to
such depths. You can bet those field offices are wired to the
mainframe with broadband, doesn't take much more than a Pentium II 200
to do that and Outlook Express can handle jpeg. I have no doubt money
was diverted (it always is) but to say their systems haven't been
updated since '93 or '95 is ludicrous. This article IMO was designed
to create support for the vague "foundations" the FBI now intends to
build. Big Brother is right around the corner and I'd rather they
didn't get the money to build him at all.

Jim Patrick <jpatrick@shentel.net> wrote in message news:<b8o8kugh01n0m01bbecbu28oa24puhkgkm@4ax.com>...
> In comp.security.misc, Tripper wrote:
> >It's too easy to accept that bureaucratic politics and ineptitude are
> >to blame for 911 when the fact is both Minneapolis and Washington
> >stymied the investigation that would have put at least a few of the
> >hijackers in jail.
>
> PoO: My post places no blame on the FBI for the September attacks,
> that issue is separate from their crappy computer system.
>
> >....To say "Give us money because we can't even email
> >a jpeg photo" only plays to popular perceptions that the FBI could not
> >find it's thumb if it was stuck in it's ass and avoids the real
> >problem, which is as you've pointed out management is not doing their
> >job. Millions and millions of dollars will not solve the problem as
> >long as idiots run the show and Bush has shown he's willing to put up
> >with them, even expand their reach. There's a whitewash going on and
> >in my opinion this article furthers it.
>
> The article doesn't call the FBI spokesman "liars", but comes pretty
> close when they describe the modernization budget and where it was
> actually spent.
>
> Keep in mind that the problem isn't that the FBI has *no* decent
> computers or software --they have some of the best in their computer
> center-- but that the average field office has squat. Hardware is
> old, software is (often) proprietary DOS based, and training is "learn
> it". I would hope that most (WHs) sympathize with those field
> personnel who are trying to do a decent job on 486 laptops and other
> crappy equipment.
>
> As the article states in it's opening, the problem isn't the
> headquarters or Washington center, it's the average Joe in an office.
> These are the people who (in reality) do the work, develop the leads,
> and work the cases.
>
> It's a rock-n-a-hard-place situation: if Congress gives them more
> money for overall computer upgrades; history shows the administration
> will probably blow it on empire building. OTOH if money isn't given
> to them, there's zero chance it'll ever happen. The only solution I
> can think of is to clear out the entire top structure; not very
> realistic or feasible.
>
> The real kicker --right in the rectum-- is that under Hoover, the FBI
> was a world leader in using computer tech to help fight crime. IIRC,
> the NCIC was one of the first online (to law enforcement agencies
> only) database lookups in the world; and it worked very well.

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