Re: cDc prepares user-friendly stego app!

From: the Pull (jhfd@kjhkjd.com)
Date: 07/07/02 

From: the Pull <jhfd@kjhkjd.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:59:43 GMT

HC wrote:
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> > That is where the work went into. That is the primary focus, to make
> > stego easy to use and popular to use. Not to introduce a new steganographical
> > algorithm.
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> No one ever said that anything new was being produced. Putting it on
> the web is one thing...tools like S-Tools4 are already easy to use.

Looking up S-Tools... I don't see anything useful. It appears rather old,
and the most user friendly feature it has is drag and drop. It does not automatically
scan the webpage for stegged content using your signature and password. It does
not make links to this content so you can double click it and open the content. It
appears to use the same steganographic routine I do.

This means you have to know the exact url of the stegged content. You have
to save the file seperately to disk. (Which will be a double save across
the wires).

It does not have one button encrypting of such items.

Not to disparage other steganographic applications, but geesh, at least
mention F5 or outguess...

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> > The source code is open, and I have never had a virus (not for four years, anyway).
> >
> > If you are trying to imply that we might put a trojan or virus intentionally into
> > opensource code, that is ludicrous. I have 0 day going through the respective
> > vendors right now which could do that, why the hell would I risk such a thing
> > even if I were depraved enough to do it?
>
> I'm not implying anything. I'm coming right out and saying that when the
>
> CD was released at a conference, it was found to have a virus on it.
> There were members of cDc quoted as saying that it was accidental.

You stated, "Also, I'm kind of curious about the "automatic invisible cache and
history clearing"...what does that mean? Do we want cDc and their
constituent groups doing this on our systems?"

Then you come out and say this about the virus. The first sentences have
nothing to do with virii. It is implying malicious intent other than virii.

Unless you believe automatic invisible cache and history cleaning means
it is more likely to have a virus -- which is simply stupid.

Let me clue you in: automatic cache cleaning and history wiping makes an
application no more nor no less possible to have a virus in it.

So, let me ask again, you friggin weasel, what the hell are you implying?

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> It's very odd to me how you turned the whole post around to being about
> you...maybe we need to start an "alt.fan" group just for you. You could
> be the only member.

The post was about my application, dumb ***.

You talk this way to people in real life? You start off nasty and go
to nastier. Typical troll with nothing good or true to say... just ranting
about a bunch of lies and innuendo just because you can.

An all too common trait of people on the internet. They believe they
are anonymous so they descend to the worst possible denominator just because
they can't do it in person.

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