Re: Newsgroup filtering with host server software

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in article
<13n7agcfrf3ru0a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Marshall Price wrote:

Flash Gordon wrote:

Chilly8 wrote, On 26/12/07 22:55:

"Moe Trin" <ibuprofin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

Victek wrote:

You're correct that Windows Live Mail has poor filtering capability,
but it's good for Hotmail which is my main reason for using it. I
some other NG readers though, such as Gravity.

Never saw a reason/need for Hotmail. Any mail from a hotmail account
is assumed to be spam as no one would be using it for business

If they are on the road they might. Someone would almost certainly
use a Hotmail account, if they are away on a business trip to get
thier Email. One would just simply set the forwarding on their work
Email account to forward everything to their hotmail account, then
they can pick up their Email while they are on the road.

Ignore the troll - it imagines that every business operates as it does
in a single user account at home. Maybe if the troll read the rest of
the sentence that got clipped by someone, where I wrote:

]]]] at work we simply block access to the IP ranges used by Hotmail
]]]] (and yahoo, and gmail, and others).

it might understand hotmail, et.al. just isn't an option. As for
"forwarding everything", that's even against US Federal law in some
cases - but in the trolls imaginary world, that's irrelevant.

No, in a sensible company they will be provided with some method of
accessing their company email account if they are expected to read it.

Depends on how the company has set up remote access.

For example by being provided with company WebMail access or a
Blackberry. There are many other solutions that do not rely on
relaying email to an external email account.

"company WebMail access"???

I travel a lot running my online radio station, and I use hotmail,
when I am on the road, to get my Email. When you are travelling, it
is the most convenient way to keep in touch.

You really should talk to your "company engineers" and if this is all
they can offer, fire them and get someone who can _spell_ IP.

Personally I would find it the *least* convenient method. However my
company provides webmail for when I can't use my company notebook and
other methods for when I can. The same with my personal email.

Personal email isn't the company's problem. As far as accessing the
company services, if it's important that you be able to do so ACCORDING
TO THE COMPANY, then there are alternatives. If the company IT staff
are not aware/capable, there are numerous IT consultant companies who
would be glad to offer advice. If the company doesn't feel like spending
the coin to get that secure capability, they probably shouldn't be using
the Internet for business activities. Allowing Joe User (or more likely,
Joe User's son/daughter because Joe has trouble just using a web browser)
to set up remote access on his work desktop is the height of folly.

It sounds to me as if we're mixing up outgoing and incoming mail. I get
most of my incoming e-mail via Yahoo (using YPOPs!, which emulates POP3
on a localhost port), or through a free Fastmail account (using IMAP),

What you do with your personal mail is your personal decision. Company
mail should not be accessible from non-company servers. If you need
access from "outside", you should be using an SSL service requiring both
dedicated hard/software and a "password" (that isn't "remembered" by
some application).

but all my outgoing mail (and news posting, I believe) goes through
the SMTP service provided by my ISP.

Sounds like you are describing personal services. If you are doing
company business, the ISP should be nothing except a common carrier
transporting encrypted packets. It's really not rocket science.

I haven't thought about what other SMTP servers I might use away from
home, but fortunately, my ISP has plenty of access numbers all over
the place. I believe YPOPs! is capable of emulating SMTP through
Yahoo!'s webmail interface, but I haven't tried it.

Personal stuff I access through an encrypted tunneling function that
gives access to my home network. Workplace access is controlled much
more closely.

Old guy
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