Re: News Release


"Volker Birk" <bumens@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Cliff <whidbey.us@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh boy another navy vet.......one thing you find out about navy vets is
that
most of them are full of shit :) I bet you were a chief to boot....the
worst
of the worst :)

Cliff, why are you affronting people with other opinions here? Are you
running out of arguments?

:) I was kidding.....:):):) It is a navy chief thing.......seems like your
getting a bit testy here.

It's 3 am and the Captain is in his bunk. The ship hits an obstacle.
Guess
who gets the ultimate responsibility and pays for the mistake.
Seeing how the captain is a commissioned officer in charge of a ship he
would take the blame. But in the same respect did the captain of the ship
that the two sailors were on that raped the two Guamanian girls a while
back
take any blame for their rape? Not one bit. He was not complicit in their
rape. Same goes for those in charge of the soldiers at abu gharaib......

Please explain how the men can torture for months and no officer
recognizes. And after you explained that, please explain wether the
officers were incompetent or unconcerend or just undutiful, if you don't
want to accept they gave such orders or at least admitted those crimes.

And please explain, why you're disagreeing with Major General Antonio
Taguba.

I am not disagreeing I am agreeing with what he said:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Army general in charge of the investigation
into abuse of some Iraqi prisoners told a Senate committee hearing Tuesday
that "a failure of leadership" was to blame for the situation, and said
there was no evidence the soldiers involved were acting under orders.

Leadership failure does not mean that the leaders were complicit in the
knowledge as I recall there were quite a few command level personel that
were relieved of their duties. Note that this does not mean that they were
guilty of allowing torture, they were guilty of what Taguba stated " a
failure of leadership". There is a huge difference.

Now may I ask you the same thing?
Can please explain, why you're disagreeing with Major General Antonio
Taguba?


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