Re: defeating firewalls made easy

From: Moe Trin (ibuprofin_at_painkiller.example.tld)
Date: 05/30/05 

Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:40:20 -0500

In article <3fvdakF9iq10U2@individual.net>, elaich wrote:
>"itoii 3uvu" <itoii3uvu@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:U0tme.2779$rb6.776@lakeread07:
>
>> so perhaps all employers may need to adopt a "zero tolerance" policy
>> with respect to employees opening e-mail from unknown senders
>
>There is no danger from opening email from unknown senders unless you are
>using Outhouse Express...

Agreed - first we don't use windoze, and second, we don't use a web
browser because that's the only application you've learned. For example,
I'm using an application called 'mailx' which is a derivative of 'mail'
which has been around since the mind 1980s - before microsoft invented
networking or whatever. Finally, you have to remember that those of us
who are serious about networks don't use a toy firewall - and it doesn't
offer any services and is locked away from unauthorized people. Our
firewalls are not administrated over the internal (never mind DMZ or
external) network.

>which I notice everybody posting in this thread is. So much for this
>forum being a home for security savvy people.
    
Well, this is a holiday in many countries, but when I downloaded this
group at 14:00 UTC, I found 18 articles in this thread:

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From: "itoii 3uvu" <itoii3uvu@hotmail.com> 7 posts
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

From: roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) 1 post
(news reader undefined)

From: Juan Valdez <null@[127.0.0.1]> 1 post
User-Agent: Xnews/06.08.25

From: Mungo <reallydontmail@me.com> 1 post
User-Agent: Xnews/06.08.25

From: "mhicaoidh"
<<AE><EA>m<F5>v<E9>_mhic_aoidh@hot<D1><EE>Xmail?<AD>P<E4>M.com>
      1 post
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527

From: "Duane ;-\)" <Notme@Notme.com> 3 posts
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

From: elaich <a@b.c> 1 post
User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25

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So, seven people, three using outhouse, three using Xnews, and one
undefined. If you look at my headers, I'm using slrn on UNIX.

If you look at the subjects of the articles in this group today,
most relate to toy firewalls used on home computers or at best small
businesses. So, are you still surprised?

        Old guy

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