Re: It's a copier, no it's a computer...

From: htredneck (dontcontactviaemail_at_not.com)
Date: 04/12/05


Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:00:51 GMT

As I have read from other posts before mine, I agree... This device is
not a serious threat (under normal/default conditions)... obviously,
change the password as suggested above and make sure it is something
unique to your network (no other host shares the same PW)...

also, by default, Internet e-mail connectivity usually relies on the
local environment (e.g. your internal SMTP server or the server out on
your ISP)... someone needs to key this data into the device and it is
doubtful your client knows the required info, nor do they know how to
get it (from any other souce than you)...

do not permit any inbound traffic to target the device unless it is a
must and you have evaluated and approved of the connection... In most
cases I have been privy to, a direct connection from the Internet to a
printing device is rarely if ever necessary...

Wireless really shouldn't be a big deal either... just run a cable
from the printer to your switch... I would not rely on a wireless
connection for printing or scanning if I could avoid it... but even if
you did permit it, the harm potential can be managed pretty well. It
will only be transmitting print data anyhow... no passwords or user
IDs should be getting sent to the printer unless you require such data
to be provided (which is overkill in my opinion)...

Scanning could be a problem in a wireless environment if the data is
being sent to an internal server instead of the printer's local
drive... because in this case a username and password will be
necessary unless you set up an anonymous share on your server...
still, not a big deal in most cases (unless it is the photocopier
being used in the Michael Jackson case)... etc. etc.

hope (at least) some of that made sense.

More than happy to clarify my comments if requested.

-redneck

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:46:05 GMT, "TomC" <albert@ayler.bye> wrote:

>An office for which I consult just purchased a Savin 4045sp
>copier/scanner/printer. I would normally handle any computer-related
>purchases, but since this was "just a copier," I didn't hear about it until
>the deal was completed. The more I see of its specs, the more the Savin
>looks like an Internet-capable computer with potentially serious security
>issues.
>
>Besides being able to serve as a network printer, it has a 20 GB hard drive,
>and can connect to the Internet to upload its own "scan and send" emails.
>The salesman convinced the office manager that there would be no problem
>connecting the device to the current network, since he would provide a
>wireless network access point that would simply plug into our 10-100 switch.
>Confirming my worst fears, the Savin manual says that the 4045sp uses the
>obsolete WEP encryption for its wireless connection.
>
>I think that I can prevail against the wireless option, but not against
>using the Savin as a network printer. That "scan and send" feature really
>bothers me. It means that a device running software that I have not
>installed and do not understand could upload confidential client files to
>the Internet as email attachments. If I connect the Savin to the Internet,
>can it be hacked? I don't normally have to worry about shielding the server
>from access by its network printers, but in this case maybe I should.
>
>Next, the microwave will be demanding its own static IP.
>
>Comments & suggested reading appreciated.
>
>



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