Re: Outpost/Win95 conflict
From: David Dalton (dalton_at_nfld.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:17:58 -0330
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:41:13 -0330, David Dalton <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:42:27 -0000, bassbag
>>In article <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org
>>> A while ago when I asked about firewalls for Windows 95,
>>> Duane Arnold replied:
>>> > Kerio 2.15, Outpost, ZA, and Sygate all have free versions that I would
>>> > think would run on any Win 9'x O/S.
>>> > You'll have to try them and pick the one that best meets your needs.
>>> Kerio 2.15 (or is it Kerio 2.1.5?) doesn't support Windows 95.
>>> Then I tried Outpost 1.0/FREE and that installed fine but
>>> now there are some problems so I figured I would ask
>>> here (since there is no tech support for FREE) in case
>>> some of you experienced the same problems a few
>>> years ago.
>>> First it starts up fine on Windows startup but then
>>> complains about a missing DLL file aupdate.dll
>>> but then seems to run fine without it.
>>> Then, the main problem is that when shutting
>>> down Windows 95, three out of four times
>>> it hangs and thus the next time Windows 95
>>> is started scandisk must be run, and my niece
>>> is getting pissed off at me for installing the
>>> firewall now (but it has reduced the incidence
>>> of inserted supposed typos by hackers a lot).
>>> The one time in four it does shut down there is a
>>> an error, repeated twice of the form "this
>>> program has done an illegal operation and
>>> will be shut down, and you have to click on
>>> Close twice to get Windows to shut down".
>>> But the Outpost web site says Outpost FREE
>>> does support Windows 95 which their
>>> commercial version does not.
>>> So anyway I was wondering if any of you
>>> had come across that problem before and
>>> knew of a solution. If not I will uninstall it
>>> next weekend and may then try ZA or
>>> Sygate as Duane suggests, or do a web
>>> search for Windows 95 firewall, perhaps.
>>see thread here...
>But the Windows Sockets Update is no longer available at
>download.com where that thread points to so I found
>an alternate download site at
>and am downloading it now and will report back here in a followup
It solved the missing aupdate.dll problem but not the
problems with hanging on shutting down and thus requiring
scandisk to run on next startup. Thus there appear
to be two separate problems I guess, and the
aupdate.dll problem is unrelated to the shutting down
problems. I think this box is running basic Windows 95
(probably second release) except I installed some Windows
Security Patches a few months ago. Obviously I would
get a newer box except I am poor currently and only
need it for an hour a day at most of e-mail and newsgroup
access and a bit of html editing with a text editor on occasion.
Also it is my niece's second box, she has an XP machine
out of town and uses this one only on weekends for hotmail
and MSN Chat.
If I can't solve the problem with shutting down I will
uninstall Outpost FREE and try something else,
maybe even a cheap commercial version (though
these commercial versions do not state up front
they do not run with Windows 95 so if you download
one and find it does not then you have to apply
for a refund as I did with Kerio), by the weekend.
Thanks for your advice, those who have replied