Re: Is complete home security possible?
From: Moe Trin (ibuprofin_at_painkiller.example.tld)
Date: 02/09/05
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:25:15 -0600
In article <EPudnQVZf6XxaZrfRVn-2w@comcast.com>, Charles Newman wrote:
>>> If you are a gamer, some computer games will only run in
>>> administrator
>>> mode. Flight Simulator does this I know. If I log in under anything other
>>> than an administrator level account, I will an error message on FS98,
>>> FS2002, and FS2004, sayying that I need to be an administrator to
>>> use the program, and I have heard of a lot of other games having this
>>> problem.
Didn't notice you posting this - but from a computer literate standpoint
I have to ask "what the heck does a game need administrator privileges for"?
For that matter, why does ANY user application need such privileges?
>Just one problem, FS2002 and 2004 have to go to the Web to download the
>latest worldwide weather (FS2004 does this every 15 minutes). There are a
>couple of other weather programs for FS98, and later, which update every
>30 minutes. So, playing with Flight Simulator, if I want the latest real
>world weather, it has to go to the Web.
And why might that need to be done as administrator?
>Where I went to college used a program similar to the much-touted
>Evidence Eliminator,
>only much more sophisticated. This program did two things. It zeroed
>the disk and restored the desired configuration.
A heritage of applications being for a single user system. User configuration
tweaks should be part of the user's setup, not the system.
>People like ejfudd820 may tout Evidence Eliminator, and you have to admit
>that it is good at what it does,
It prevents mommy from seeing that you've been visiting a pr0n site - and
other casual inspection of the disk. If it were so great, why is it not
being used by the military or even military contractors (as one example)?
We're not even doing government work here, but the disks on systems used
in the development area get physically destroyed rather than reused. The
same for backup media. They're also on an isolated network (not just
firewalled - _isolated_ from the rest of the facility).
>but the program they used in the labs would blow EE away. They used this
>to keep the University, and any of its administration>out of trouble, if
>any student/staff/faculty ever did something illegal.
So, you are saying that they don't care what you do as long as the evidence
that you used their stuff is destroyed? What school was this?
>The primary worry was software piracy. The program would first erase
>any file not in the list of files to keep and then it would zero the disk
>space as it went. Web cache, internet history, unauthorized software
>installations, etc, etc, we would be erased and zeroed, and then
>files they wanted on there restored. The software they used did
>keep the university out of hot water a few times. I did hear of
>invesigators investigating for software piracy, but they were unable
>to recover anything from the hard disks.
I've seen that type of application used quite often at schools. Rarely
have they been worrying about piracy - it's about the viruses that
get installed by the students, and about restoring the defaults for
applications (if the admin is stupid enough to allow applications
to be reconfigured by users).
>It also kept the unversity out of hot water once when one of the
>counselors was arrested for downloading child porn. Because this program
>wiped and restored the hard disk on his office computer regularly, the
>authorities were unable to recover any evidence against the university,
>so the university avoided any criminal or civil liability,
Did it also wipe the router/firewall logs?
Old guy
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